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#67177 11/29/05 10:59 PM
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With all of the Champion's League group and round 2 matches as well as league games, I thought it would be a good idea to start a topic devoted to new European football news. I do realize that the winter break is coming up, but there will still be many transfers.

Last night, Ronaldinho was crowned with the Ballon D'Or in Paris. Go to www.nikefootball.com and watch his video in which he hits the crossbar 4 times in a row. It is quite amazing. There is no doubt in my mind that after an almost perfect display against Real Madrid that he deserves this award.

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Champion's League Matchday 6 Results:


PSV 2-0 Fenerbahçe
Milan 3-2 Schalke
Olympiacos 2-1 Real Madrid
Lyon 2-1 Rosenborg
Betis 0-1 Anderlecht
Chelsea 0-0 Liverpool
Artmedia 0-0 Porto
Rangers 1-1 Internazionale


Rangers become the first Scottish team to go through to the group of 16.

Real lose under their new interim coach, but with Guti suspended and Zidane, Beckham, Casillas, and Ronaldo being rested.

The remainder of the matches will be played tommorow (Wednesday).

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All United needed was a draw and they couldn't even hold a one-goal lead! Unbelievable. Even at the highest level crazy stuff happens.

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who do yall think win win the champions league now that we have the last 16?

I'm personally pulling for Juventus, although AC Milan and Lyon looked good. Also, Barcelona is playing very well so it should be a good run.

Around what time of they year will the final be?

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The Man U-Benfica match was quite dissapointing in the second half. The first was quite interesting with a great diving header for Benfica. I don't know what the problem with United is this season. They played, understandably, with great urgency in the second half but couldn't pull it off and I think despite great attacking football their finishes and forwards just were'nt on key.

I think Barcelona can win it. They are unstoppable with Ronaldinho and and Eto'o. If Villareal can put a good run together they can be a good under-the-radar team with Forlan, Riquelme, and Luciano Figueroa. I don't really know. Please share all of ya'lls thoughts.

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Maddox,

Final is at the end of May....match is played on a Wed....usually on ESPN at 2:30.

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It's A Low Moment But We Must Regroup - Fergie

Sir Alex Ferguson was visibly shell-shocked after seeing United crash out of Europe altogether following their 2-1 defeat to Benfica in Lisbon.

A draw would have been good enough for the Reds, but they were unable to muster a single shot on goal in the second half having taken a sixth minute lead through Paul Scholes.

Goals from Geovanni and Beto gave Benfica the victory which took them through to the knock-out stages of the Champions League and in turn dumped United out of the competition leaving them bottom of Group D.

Villarreal topped the group after their 1-0 win over Lille, who will go into the UEFA Cup because of their superior record over United in their head-to-head clashes this season.

Fergie spoke to Sky Sports after the match and discussed where he felt things went wrong...

Sir Alex, Manchester United are out of Europe before Christmas. You must be in shock...

Yes I am. It's a low moment because we've prided ourselves on our performances in Europe over the last thirteen years. We've won it once, made it to the semi-finals and quarter-finals on a number of occasions during that period and have always done particularly well in the group stages. This is certainly a low moment and not one of the best for the club or the supporters, but the only thing you can do now is regroup and start again, that's part of your job. Keeping the ball is essential on the European stage and unfortunately we gave possession away too easily against Benfica. Hopefully we can learn from that because we were in a winning position at 1-0 and were looking well. The lads put a lot of determination into their game in the second half, dominated possession and got into some very good positions. But when you're chasing a game like we were, a certain amount of desperation and anxiety creeps in and when we needed some composure we overdid things and became a bit desperate. That's understandable though because the players were keen to win.

Although you've gone out of the competition tonight, where do you think your campaign floundered?

We've always depended on our home form and that's has let us down this time. We found it difficult to break Lille down when we played them at Old Trafford. We played with ten men for 35 minutes and they just sat back and defended. That was a game which we felt was a good opportunity to forge ahead in the group because Villarreal and Benfica played each other that night. We had some good chances in our home match with Villarreal but weren't able to take them. A draw tonight would have put us through to the next stages of the Champions League, but even if we'd have won the match, I'd still have been talking about our home form. That's where we've let ourselves down a little.

Just how big a blow is it to be out of the competition at this stage and what are the ramifications?

It's a blow but as I said we just have to regroup. Throughout it's history, this club has always risen from difficult situations and will do so again.

Does the fact that there's not even a UEFA Cup place for you just compound your misery?
Oh absolutely. At the time when we chasing pole position in the group we were doing so with a lot of young players. We had seven players out through injury and that's why we were prepared to risk Gary Neville and Ryan Giggs against Benfica. They bring the kind of experience to the team that we hoped would help us. It was maybe a bit too soon for Ryan. He played an hour against Portsmouth but I think he found it a bit difficult tonight. Gary's done very well to get through the match. I was ready to take him off because I knew he would be blowing hard after being out for so long, but John O'Shea was feeling his hamstring so I was forced to keep Gary on. Louis Saha was another who we brought on. He's a player that has the ability and the experience that we've lacked throughout the campaign. When we've needed our top players they've not been there.

Is tonight's result even more frustrating given the fact that you've been doing so well in the Premiership recently?

I think the confidence has grown within the club over the last few games because we've played very well. But as I said before, we made an easy game [with Benfica] very hard for ourselves. We committed a cardinal sin by the way in which we gave the ball away and the players know that. We've lost the game by giving possession of the ball away.

You've talked about rebuilding. Where are you in terms of that rebuilding and how far away are you from having a team that can challenge for the Champions League once again?

I think the nucleus of the side is fine. We're always looking to improve ourselves particularly from within the club because that's always been part of our club. Young players come through and join the first team squad and sometimes one will emerge and replace one of the older players. We've seen that happen many times in the past; that's just evolution. On the other side of it, we're always looking at players in the game who we think can help us improve, that never stops. We've got a good squad and when we get all the players fit again and they get some games behind them, we'll be a better team.

Will the club's exit from Europe have a financial impact on what you can do in the transfer market?
No I don't think there's a problem with that - we've been told we can buy. We're looking at one or two situations but as you know January isn't the easiest time. There are a lot of players who are committed to European football and therefore there are some targets for the summer. But there may also be one or two in January.

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you know that Man u's early exit cost them like 15 million pounds ($30 million approx) in prize money. But they're showing form in the Premiere League, i think they will catch and beat Chelsea to lift the trophy. Man U has the best young stars of Europe and soccer period

Christiano Ronaldo (no shot yet, best ball skill presented by a soccer player with no flaws)
Wayne Rooney (temper, crazy shot, decent dribbling, good speed)

2 wonder boys

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While yes, Man U were dumped out of the champions league, at least they haven't let their other games fall into the same trap, as they sit in 2nd while Arsenal have fallen to a poor 8th.

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i think that if chelsea loses any of their next 2 games, and liverpool and man u win there next 2 games, it will be a fight between liverpool and man u, chelsea will lose more games and be taken out of contention for the premiership

i personally am a liverpool fan

5 Mistakes Liverpool have made:

1. Getting rid of Michael Owen
2. Getting rid of Robbie Fowler
3. Getting rid of Jamie Redknapp
4. Getting rid of Steve McManaman
5. Getting rid of Danny Murphy

If they made the mistake of selling Gerrard to Chelsea, Liverpool would be no more

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You honestly think that McManaman was a valuable player, and that Danny Murphy would get into the side right now, with center midfielders Sissoko, Luis Garcia and Gerrard?

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McManaman was a valuable player, i said those are mistakes they made, they have restored there midfield, but in my opinion nothing was better than when those players were on the field with gerrard

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Luis Garcia does not play center mid, you're probably thinking Xabi Alonso...you can see how Murphy has been carrying Charlton so far this season, him and Gerrard could be dominant in the middle. Momo is good, but he needs to settle down and mature. Xabi and Murphy could see split time...or perhaps a change in formation, which is unlikely. Imagine Alonso, Murphy, and Gerrard in the middle.

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that would be nuts, and for man u fan, i think real madrid signed mcmanaman if i remember, redknapp and fowler were major liverpool stars [Razz]

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Boxing Day was unbelievable. Four matches on FSC.

I don't think I've seen two more exciting matches this year than Fulham-Chelsea and Man City-Wigan.

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Celtic lost to Clyde 1-2 this weekend, spoiling Roy Keane's debut. On the brighter side, however, Artur Boruc saved a penalty kick and Maciej Zurawski scored in the 82nd minute for Celtic. The Polish striker may finally be returning to form.

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