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Besides Bridge and CESA......what other teams are quality and will make a run this year at State Cup?

I think when these two teams play in their age group in the spring (assuming they both will), they will dominate. Bridge 93 would be my pick based on their head to head with the Cesa 93.

CF....have these teams already played head-to-head?

as i recall - they played last year during the spring. pretty sure bridge won that one 2-1.

Pretty sure they didn't have Big Daddy's four boys from the suburbs of Charlotte.

Get ready to strap it on....should be a good one!

Hurst66: Please don't confuse people like that.

CESA has a policy of "social soccer" -- teams don't change much year to year in the interest of helping the "team chemistry" evolve and to allow both the children and the parents to bond in everlasting friendships.

So in no way will you see a CESA team get better year-to-year. It's not how good a soccer player you are -- it's how long you've been on the team and whether your parents are "connected."

P.S. <- That means that I'm being incredibly, totally, sarcastic.

Hurst,

CESA 93 and Bridge 93 play in Columbia on Nov. 6th and it will be an awesome game.

Reading a Southern Soccer....I saw where one of the Bridge kids made the U14 National pool.

Chico,

Thanks for the clarification....but I never questioned the "CESA mission". I give props to the organization that can reach out and "build bridges"....allowing the young ladies of the Asheville area an opportunity to play with the young ladies of the Charleston area. I didn't think I'd ever see these gals meet until I took in a UNC-Asheville vs. Charleston Southern Big South match, where they would most likely be on opposing teams. You've managed to bring them together four years earlier.....and put them on the same squad!

;>)


Daddy, this is a great age group where we see two quality teams from the two super powers square off in a fair fight. Should be fun!

Hurst66: I honestly didn't think you were questioning anything -- I was just trying to be funny. Sorry about that...

Chico,

No reason to apologize. My comments in return are not meant to be malicious....just trying to be funny back.

;>)

B daddy
I was suprised to hear that the 92 girls Premier took it to the boys 3-0.

taylorbabe: Agreed...a good 13-year old girls team should beat a good 12-year old boys team. Think about the dances where all the girls are taller than boys at this age -- physical maturation occurs earlier with girls.

Now...wait a couple of years...and it will be a vastly different story, no matter how talented the girls are. The sheer size, speed, and strength of the boys once they get into and past puberty pretty much dictates it.

It was the boys second scrimmage of a very hot day. 98% of the first half was played in the girls defensive third of the field. The girls did better in the second half but the boys still had the significant run of play.

Difference was......boys were extremely disorganized offensively and squandered untold chances. Plus, the girls goalie made some spectacular saves. All 3 goals took place in the last 7-8 minutes of the game and were a combination of nice finishes and poor decisions made by the boys in the back.

I guess I disagree that a U14 girls team should beat a U13 boys team. A 2 year gap I'd agree with......but not one. The boys definetly blew this one but give credit to the Ladies. They bent.....hung in there and did what they needed to do to win the game.

Big Daddy: You could very well be right...I'm limited to only the anecdotal evidence from what I've seen as my kid played and it could have been just those teams she was on.

Daddy,

Forget U14G vs. U13B...how about U13G vs. U13B? Can your new team hang with that Charlotte Soccer Club U13G team that used to beat up on the boys last year?

LOL......Hurst, you are ALWAYS trying to get me in trouble. And I am such a gullible and willing partner!!!

'93 CSC Blue, formerly the Fusion, are an awesome team. But they would lose handily to Lil Daddy's CESA team. These boys are just too active, physical, tenacious.....for a girls team at age. CSC Arsenal was a pretty good team but didn't have the athletes or depth that this years '93 Premier boys team has.

But '93 CSC Blue girls are an awesome team......any girls team that plays them better strap it on, including girls teams a year older. They are very, very good.

B Daddy
I thought you had more soccer knowledge than that. The 92 girls played with 9 defenders in the back, that would account for the boys playing on the girls defensive third of the field. In the second half of the game the girls played their normal attacking soccer and scored the 3 goals. The reason the boys were disorganized and confused is that they had probally never seen that defense. I would love to see Hyslop's 93 girls premier team scrimage the 93 boys premier. Prediction: Hyslop's girls.

Big Daddy you missed point of the U 14 girls game i.e. the master plan being practiced to be used against tough teams. The girls used this same defensive strategy last weekend and beat the top rated team in Kentucky allowing them to attack until exhaustion and frustration set in and then the CESA team snatched a goal.

In the first half of the U 14G v U 14B game the U 13 boys were allowed to get into the girls half at will, as basically only the girls two forwards crossed the half way line. The girls defense closed down on the boys the closer they got to the girls goal and the boys had to generally shoot from outside of the penalty area, most of the shots were poor. The few good shots were saved by a very competent new goalkeeper who was always well placed to make the save, not anything spectacular, but good competent goal keeping. Boys will be boys and they did a bit of hot dogging with ineffective, unchallenged, unnecessary dribbling runs to show their general first half territorial superiority - in the abysmal heat and humidity.

In the second half the girls came out as an attack minded team with plenty of gusto. The boys were spent and the girls ran all over them as the game continued. Hence the 3-0 win.

The game was different to the one last year when the same basic teams i.e. U 13 girls beat the U 12 boys the girls only allowing a couple of shots on their goal and keeping the ball mostly in the boys half of the field.

Taylorbabe
I find it hard to believe that the girls have more experience playing soccer than the boys. The average Boy probally trains twice as much as the female player at this age. When was the last time you saw girls playing a game of pickup soccer? Boys at this age and level play every chance they get.

Chico
What you're saying is that female midddle school athletes are better than their male counterparts.

sweet feet: Here's precisely what I said...and did not say...in two very short posts:

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taylorbabe: Agreed...a good 13-year old girls team should beat a good 12-year old boys team. Think about the dances where all the girls are taller than boys at this age -- physical maturation occurs earlier with girls.

Now...wait a couple of years...and it will be a vastly different story, no matter how talented the girls are. The sheer size, speed, and strength of the boys once they get into and past puberty pretty much dictates it.

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Big Daddy: You could very well be right...I'm limited to only the anecdotal evidence from what I've seen as my kid played and it could have been just those teams she was on.

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If you have a point...you might want to make it...cause I ain't smart enough to figure out where you be'a drivin!

Interesting...rope a dope on the soccer pitch. Honestly, it was hot as cain, I was sunburnt from the first scrimmage and I only casually watched the game....spending most of the time watching from the comfort of my air conditioned car. Can't say I saw a defined strategy in place and I also can't say I ever heard of playing 9 in the back. What, is Bruce Arena the coach of this team? Kidding....

I know I heard the coach fussing at the girls a time or 2 for effort and things picked up after that. Looked to me like the girls got the game taken to them in the first half, they got chewed on by their coach and jacked it up for the second.

If this isn't what happened and what I saw was actually a dry run for a pack it in and counter punch strategy, cool.

Chico: I stand by my original post. What you precisely did was agreed with taylorbabe's opinion. Ain't drivin nowhere, just suprised the girls handled the state champ boys.

Ok! rereading the posts I am mega confused. Was it the U-13 (Hyslop's team) who played the U-12 Premier Boys or the U-14 (Rinker's team) who played the U13 Boys. I saw in a post comments about using the same tactic in Knoxville. Rinker's team went to Knoxville not Hyslop's. Hyslop's team is in Greensboro this weekend. Having watched both these teams play numerous times. If either of these teams had to play a premier boys team a year down I would put my money on the girls.

bamr1: Rinker's 92 girls.

It was Jim Rinkers U 14 Girls team which beat the U 13 Boys team for the second time in two years.

Big Daddy seems to think it was not a planned defensive tactic. However after the Knoxville v Kentucky game which CESA U 14 girls won 1-0 the coach was overheard telling Jim Rinker that the defensive tactic was outside of his teams experience Kentucky had won its 2 earlier games by 8 and 5 goal scores.

I would prefer to see the girls go out and play their normal game which is better to watch, but its good to have some other tactics -so well done Jim.

1977......don't misunderstand me. I said I didn't see a tactic, but I also said it was hot as hades and I wasn't totally paying attention either.

Glad to hear it worked in a game. I would be scared to death of trying that.....a questionable call by the ref on a handball or tackle could set up a PK or a short range direct kick that could cost you. I just don't like playing in front of my own goal.