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Just looking for the scores. Thanks!
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Chapin - 2 Myrtle Beach - 1
Dutch Fork - 5 A.C. Flora - 0
Northwestern - 4 Dorman - 0
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Saturday February 17 @ Chapin 09:00 Dreher vs Myrtle Beach 11:00 Chapin vs Mauldin
@ Dutch Fork 09:00 Dorman vs. A.C. Flora 11:00 Dutch Fork vs Northwestern
@ Irmo 09:00 Greenwood vs Hammond 11:00 Irmo vs Socastee
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Dreher was missing their starting keeper and their starting sweeper got injured against Mauldin
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who scored for Myrtle Beach?
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Irmo 1 NW 1
At the half. NW scored first on an upper 90 shot, and Irmo scored with about 6 left in the half with a shot low and in the corner. Good game so far!
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DF 2 Mauldin 0 NWN 6 Irmo 1
Finals: DF v NWN 2:00 Sunday at Irmo
Other scores to be posted soon
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How did Northwestern score 5 goals in the 2nd half?
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will game stats be posted? who scored, who assisted, saves, etc.
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northwestern moved the ball better in the second half and capitalized on set pieces. the championship should be a good one. dont forget, kropp did not play in the first game against dutch fork...
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Northwestern beat Dutch Fork in the title game 5-1
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northwestern played very well, i think a repeat is a very good possibility
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the trojans played very well indeed. some time back i warned u chaps about their former jv players who only allowed a goal last year and some of u did more than snicker. i never believed that they would go undefeated and can still c a loss or 2 coming, but they will be there at d end.
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what was the difference between the 1st DF vs. NW game and the second , did DF just not show up?
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The first game between the two Dutch Fork played hard but were very lucky to come away with a win after Northwestern dominated them for 80 plus minutes.
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is northwestern really 4 goals better than DF then
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coladad, I heard that DF triple teamed that kid from NW and shut him down. I would not call that lucky. Sometimes you have to allow a team more possesion in order to keep a player from scoring. What seemed like luck may have been a good tactic used. Just food for thought.....
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they did pay special attention to that kid, player of the year last year, aka enzo martinez. they did a real good job of marking ryan kropp out of the first game as well, what am i saying, kropp did not play in the first game. in the second game cates could not roam and had to pay special attention to kropp who went every where he did which obviously freed up martinez, benson-tourney mvp- and others. dutch fork showed up and has a good team who also may be around in the end and dutch fork did not quit, but da trojans have lots of firepower when it is all on the field.
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is there an all tournament team/roster that is going to be made? by viewing the games this past weekend i would like to see who would be selected. get back to me on this
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coladad did you watch the first game? or did you just assume that because nw handled df in the second game that they must have gotten unlucky in the first? if you watched the first game, the score pretty reflected the match pretty well. nw had the majority of the chances in the first half with df scoring a late goal to pull it to even, but df definitely had the majority of the chances in the second half after carey hite was put on enzo practically shut him down. wolfgang's statement about the 2nd game is very accurate. kropp's size and ability to hold balls really opened up the game for both enzo and alex up top. kropp was not a 5 goal difference, there were other factors that affected the outcome, but he definitely played a huge role in helping them win that second game. nw is definitely the most skillful team through midfield and up top. there backs are not as solid as the rest of the team, but obviously still got the job done for most of the weekend.
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Was there ever an All-Tournament team named for the Lake Murray Challenge or Carolina Classic?
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2007 Lake Murray Challenge All-Tournament Team Player Year Position School Chris McDonough JR MF Mauldin Daniel Kellogg JR F Dreher Daniel Lynch JR D Irmo Daniel Russo SR MF AC Flora Drew Boswell JR MF Mauldin Enzo Martinez SO F Northwestern Garrett Lay SR D Irmo Joshua Pennington JR D Socastee Julian DuRant SR D Myrtle Beach Justin Holladay JR D Hammond Matt Firmin JR D Greenwood Michael Sullivan SR F Dutch Fork Robbie Birnie SR MF Dutch Fork Ryan Martin SR MF Dutch Fork Thomas Acosta SO F Dorman Tyler Williams JR D Chapin Vance Benson- MVP SR MF Northwestern Will Stillman SR D Northwestern Zack Clark SO MF Northwestern
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Where is Cates from Dutch Fork?
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why were there not any freshmen picked in this team? i felt as though there were some freshmen that i saw out there that could have been named before some, or is this selection just for the older players? also yes, i saw cates play against Northwestern and i thought he would be on this selection? anyone else feel the same?
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Yes, I agree with you goldengrillz19, Cates should have definetely made the team and there should have been one or two freshman that I saw play on there. One would definetely be Joey Demore, he scored 2 goals against Dorman and was a threat the whole weekend along with the other forward for Chapin, maybe #2?? In my opinion there were several players left out and several that shouldn't be on that list, but it is just an "All-Tournament" team. And one more question where are all the goalkeepers, were there none chosen?
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how did justin watson #3 left forward look for socastee? he's very quick.
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there is no answer for enzo martinez..he had a hat trick in the championship with all the attention he received from dutchb fork
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For a correction on coladad, i think the name is DeMore i think. but who do you think was the best player in this tournament from each Class freshmen sophomore etc..?
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Joey Demare is a freshman at Chapin. Not DeMore.
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There is an answer for Enzo. A good man marking defender can contain him for a game. He might still have some spectacular plays but he wont do anything extrodinary like score a hat trick.
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easier said than done, if u have ever had 2 mark a really good player
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you both have a point. nw is so loaded that if you take your best defender and man mark enzo you more than likely will leave yourself exposed elsewhere in the back. against some teams that would not be a problem, but against a team like nw they have a handful of other players that'll make you pay.
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ryan kropp is what makes the northwestern attack go. he was absent in the first match between the two teams and while enzo did score against dutch fork early, they did drop carey hite back on him limiting his play for the rest of the match. with kropp, there is just another aspect in the attack that you cannot just man mark enzo or kropp will beat you. nw uses kropp as the point man for their attack letting him win and hold balls. i personally think kropp is the reason the nw attack works so well.
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Northwestern is not all that people say they are. They have probably the best front 2/3, depending on whether alex martinez is playing forward or midfielder. But, the rest of their team is average at best. The best way to beat Northwestern is play them the way they play you. Put your best 4 or 5 guys up front and attack them. If Enzo, Ryan, and Alex aren't getting the ball then it doesn't matter how good they are. If you score 6 goals and they score 5, you still win and then how effective were their best players. So in the end the only way to beat Northwestern is to throw as many people forward and force them to defend instead of allowing them to walk down your throat with their best 4 players.
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Or you could defend them the old fashioned way. Put two guys on each of NW's best players up top and every time they touch the ball, hammer them. Rotate the players in and out so that you get 4 or 5 with yellows from hammering them, and that will probably slow them down. You don't intentionally injur them, you just make them hurt a little bit.
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In reply to goldengrillz19 I would say this: Freshman: Joey Demare, Sophmore: Enzo Martinez, Junior: Danny Cates, Senior: Vance Benson
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Or you could defend them the old fashioned way. Put two guys on each of NW's best players up top and every time they touch the ball, hammer them. Rotate the players in and out so that you get 4 or 5 with yellows from hammering them, and that will probably slow them down. You don't intentionally injur them, you just make them hurt a little bit.
Is that how they did it in the good ol' days at Irmo?
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i don't think that strategy is gonna work fifteen. puttin your 5 best players up top isn't really a feesible idea. if you want to get in a shootout with nw, you will probably lose. if you put your 5 best players up top, who will defend? you're weakest players? i'll take nw there. man marking them and hammering them is probably the best way to attempt to defend them, but still is nearly impossible to do for 90 minutes. you have to have 3 very capable defenders that play close to perfect for the entire game.
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Lexington returns their entire defense.
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i guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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why is there so much talk about Lexington?
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It is all speculation. You could just as easily talk about Dutch Fork, Northwestern, Greenville, or Riverside.
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to say that northwestern is at best average without their forwards is absurd. senior vance benson is the only in state player in usc''s recruiting class this. freshman robbie benson and fellow freshman alex martinez may be the best two freshmen in the state. senior center back will stillman may be the hardest tackler and best ball winner in the state. and when someone finds an answer to enzo martinez let me know. (a reasonable answer rather then put 5 guys on him or put 5 forwards up front to score more than nw)
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Mike Bassett, one small correction: Sam Kleckley of Greenville HS also signed with the University of South Carolina earlier this month. Everything else I agree with you! Northwestern had an incredible squad last year and it appears the Trojans are going to be favorites once again in 2007.
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Mike, If i remember correctly, the first time Dutch Fork played Northwestern in the Lake Murray Challenge, Carey Hite shut down Enzo. So you have no right to say that there is no way to shut down Enzo. When DF stuck Carey back there, enzo had maybe 1 or 2 shots the rest of the game and was no effect in the first game.
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Thanks Kyle. I forgot about Sam. Links5, how can you possibly say that Enzo was shut down? If you can recall, Enzo dribbled his man, did danny cates in, and scored from a very sharp angle into the side netting past Dutch Fork's quality keeper. If Enzo getting a goal in a game that ended 2-1 in PK's means he got "shut down" then I wouldn't like to see him when hes not "shut down". Also, if i remember correctly Enzo was playing the whole game with his leg wrapped from a hip flexor injury.
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i think he was saying df dropped carey back on enzo after he scored
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I understand that but just because Enzo did not score in the all of 10 minutes Carey marked him doesnt mean he was shut down.
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There are several defenders in 4a who can man mark Enzo and neutralize him one on one. However,their (NW) front is deep enough that that someone is going to get a shot off. Just don't let it be in front. NW plays a fast game and they need to be taken on at mid field. Teams need to be willing to be aggressive, hope they have a ref who understands when they are running a trap, and hope that Enzo doesn't draw cards on incidental contact. Watch for tricks on set plays. Thats my two cents worth.
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I agree that there may be several defenders who can shut Enzo down but as of yet this year and last year, we have not seen it.thats a pretty good assessment of nw who_me. but beware of benson in the midfield.
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I agree that there may be several defenders who can shut Enzo down but as of yet this year and last year, we have not seen it.thats a pretty good assessment of nw who_me. but beware of benson in the midfield.
I disagree. Last year both SV(at Stone) and Lexington were able to do it, again primarily by attacking quickly in the midfield.
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Enzo got a goal against Lexington to seal the deal and created chances against Spring Valley. I guess if he doesnt get his two or three goals then he got shut down.
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Umm enzo's goal against lex last year was one on one with the keeper in stop time with all of lex players up trying to get an equilizer... its not that amazing of a goal!
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he still sealed the deal, in the end you just have to look at which team is wearing the ring
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im not debating the fact that they won or that enzo is a very good player i was just pointing out the fact that you can find a better example of a good goal then that one
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You are right, and I forgot this was a post on Lake Murray which neither SV or Lex were at. I was just objecting to the statement that no one was able to stop Enzo last year. He's good, but not unstoppable and it is a diservice to him for people to talk like he is. What I know of him is that he is a good kid with his head on straight, has great skills and knows he has to work hard whenever he sets foot on the pitch. I look forward to seeing what happens this season.
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