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How do you think this region will play out? Seems like Dreher and Blythewood are the teams to beat.

Don't forget about A.C. Flora in this region! great win last friday against a good greenwood team. tonight flora plays blythewood so it will be a good game to see how blythewood measures up.

acf 2 blythewood 1 a real good game and real close gotta give it to blythewood for comin a long way from last year this gaem really sets the stage for the rest of the season and it will be a real fun year

A.C. Flora pulls out a win although missing many starters to injury and illness, look for a much better game out of Flora next time.

Dreher 7-0 over Chester

acf wins region

acf had seven playeres out for blythwood five were starters, next time, acf win big

I agree, Flora wins region. Dreher in second.

who scored for AC Flora?

i believe it was Chapman with the first one, and whit with the second goal.
Is chester really that bad to drop the game 7-0?

hey i am new and a parent of a camden player and my son told me today that lugoff's coach resigned and that one of their best players was kicked off the team, anyone know if its true?

It was Chapman and Whitt. I think this is Flora's region to lose.

region to lose, haha. Flora is now returning to full strength on friday when they play camden, so look for much better play out of the Falcons.

I guess we will see how Flora looks, they have lost some close ones but have also pulled out a few as of late. They are still going to have their hands full with Dreher, it could be a toss up at this point. How many starters have been out and for how long?

they have been missing at least 5 starters a game, and were down 2 starting center mids against blythewood due to illness, but should be back friday for camden.

AC Flora will defeat Dreher....a prediction, by 2

sounds like a good prediction, but it will be a close hard faught game like it always is with dreher and flora.

I predict a split. We'll be able to see during the first one. Rivalry games are always good.

Any news on the Lugoff situation? I've heard 2 different stories. One rumor has it the coach was fired & a player kicked off. The other rumor is that they have cancelled the rest of their season.

I doubt that Lugoff would call off there season completly, but i dont know that for a fact. and i have no idea about the coach situation.

I have heard from a reliable source that the coach resigned. As far as players or season, I am not sure. I agree and doubt that they would cancel the entire season.

well thats interesting but that doesn't surprise me after seeing some of the attitudes of their players.

At any rate its flora vs camden tonight if it doesn't rain too bad... predictions?

Flora 3-1. Don't know, haven't seen Camden play. Have they beat anyone good?

The situation at Lugoff is as follows...the coach did in fact resign from his coaching duties, and they have a replacement already. The player to which you keep referring has actually only been suspended from the team.

Lugoff's season has NOT been canceled.

Tonights game, A.C. Flora v. Camden has been canceled due to the weather. I guess it will just have to be rescheduled...

Camden lost alot of players from last year's region champion team. Aside from graduation they also had 2 starting seniors decide not to play this year. One of them was an all region player the other was probably the fastest player on the team. Camden has had a tough week. They beat Lugoff in a very physical intense rivalry game on Tuesday. They had to turn around the next day & play a very fast Andrew Jackson team. They obviously had little gas in their tanks & got spanked pretty good (5-0). I think Camden will hold their own against Flora for awhile but depth will become an issue in the second half.

What's going on at Lugoff-Elgin HS? Seems to be a renegade program the past several years. Where is L-E Dude?

Now that Flora is back to full strength they should pull out a much better performance for the camden game. now that its canceled, there next game is tuesday vs Lugoff elgin. they should also pull out a good win vs L.E.

in the dreher chester game a chester player was sent off about halfway in threw the first but dreher was already up 3 nil. As far as the region evry one is up for grabs right now but i think dreher and lugoff are bost the most intense skilled and will probably finish 1 and 2 respectively

I think the region will finish with A.C. Flora in first, Dreher in second, and blythewood or lugoff in third.

what does it matter what everybody thinks, play the season, stop whining and wait and see.

Whos whining? Its just people talking about the teams in the region and what they think, nothing wrong with that.

cfb, if you don't like what is posted then don't read the board. No one is whining, it is just a discussion on how people will think the region will play out. If you don't like it don't read it.

Thank you.

When did the lugoff coach resign, was it preseason or recent?

Dreher at LE will be made up March 29
Anybody know when Flora vs Camden match will be made up?

The LE coach is Steve Brown a great man and even better coach. Most people dont know because he is a very modest man, but he played 10 years of semi-professional soccer in Uruguay. The man was somewhat of a God among mortals at LE. It was time for him to move up and to a better place. Good luck Coach Brown we are all cheering for you.

Your first love,

Joey Toughy

Flora Camden has not been rescheduled as of yet

This game has to be made up for sure right? since its a region game.

i think that the region will finish with Dreher at the top and Lugoff or Flora Second, Lugoff could win the region if they were disclplined and there players had better attitudes, they have a good couple of skilled players

Flora/Lugoff Tueday March 20th...Any takers?

Flora wins 3-0 or 4-0 maybe 4-1

i think Lugoff should be able to pull through with a 2-1 or something close

Lugoff doesnt have a chance without coach brown.

Dreher at Blythewood tonight. With all four of the top teams in this region playing tonight, this should help get a better picture of how the season will play out.

There's absolutely no way that Lugoff is gonna come close to gettin a second place finish in this region. My thoughts are ACF, Dreher, Blythewood, Camden, Lugoff, and then Chester. No way will Lugoff get a second place finish

tonite the score for the flora and lugoff was flora 3-2 with two own goals from lugoff's defenders, the last goal came in the second overtime with two minutes remaining in the game. If lugoff would have had there complete team and the refs would do a better job i think lugoff would have taken it easily. also lugoff had another red card tonite

let's be realistic here, Lugoff played a hard fought game but that was all it was. Flora did not play up to potential and that allowed LE to stay in the game. Flora scored in the 1st minute and LE spent the rest of the game playing catch up. The refs were very consistent. If anything, LE got away with cheap fouls.

maybe your right but from what i understand lugoff was missing at least two starters and it was there first game with a new coach but the refs from what i saw gave out a red to the lugoff player that was just playing physical not dirty

The red card (two yellows) was physical but not out of control. One LE player got away with a lot of cheap, dirty fouls, but not from the player ejected. I was impressed with the coach being his first game, it seems they have had to overcome some adversary over there. On the counter of LE starters, ACF is still out two starters, including their top scorer. the rematch later this season will be interesting.

Dreher 5 Blythewood 1. this makes the battle for blythewood even harder since Blythewood still has to travel back to Dreher and AC Flora.

The game last night between ACF and LE was probably the worst dispaly of soccer skill that I have seen from ACF all season. Although there was a goal in the first minute of the game, ACF didnt seem like they were there to play. Like soccer2103 said, ACF didnt play anywhere near their potential, giving LE a chance to step up and cause some problems.

Chester 4 Camden 3 in PK's


Region Standings thus far

ACF 2-0
Dreher 2-0
Chester 1-1
Camden 1-1
Blythewood 0-2
Lugoff Elgin 0-2

Weekend Region Match Ups

Lugoff @ Blythewood
ACF @ Chester
Camden @ Dreher

My feelings are that Dreher is still the best team in this group. AC Flora will finish second and the winner of the Camden/L-E wrestling match will finish third. Chester might make it. B'wood is still a year or two away unless L-E just tanks the season.

Pretty sad situation at LEHS. Lots of talent but no discipline and apparently no school/AD support for the sport itself. That program has been a bunch of renegades for some time now and they need to either do away with it entirely or get somebody in there that knows soccer, authority, and the kids!

lugoff beat blythewood tonite 4-2, lugoff scored another own goal and scored the last two goals in the last 7 minutes of the game. one of lugoff's player really made a difference when he was put in the last minutes of the game and assisted both goals

ACF 5 Chester 1

ACF dominated the entire game. Chester got and easy one from a Flora miscue.

What was the deal with Dreher vs Camden? i hear they won in OT.

yea nobody could really figure out where that goal came from still a good win for flora

So without dreher and camden updated the regions now

ACF 3-0
Dreher 2-0
Camden 1-1
Chester 1-2
Lugoff 1-2
Blythewood 0-3

in a non region game today A.C. Flora beats #3 in scisa Ben Lippen in Pks. close hard faught game. Flora went down a player in the second half due to a red card. Close game, good win for flora.

Who got the red? Kinda stupid to get a red when next game is biggest one of year v. Dreher Tuesday.

It was the right defender. he got cheap shoted and stood up and retaliated. just a push, bad decision on his part.

Dreher beat Camden 2-1 in OT.
Not Dreher's best game of season.
Camden played well defensively.
Dreher could not put the ball in the net and played with JV keeper. Dreher Flora game will be a good one Tuesday.

why was Dreher playing a JV keeper? Is he playing against Flora?

Any thoughts on dreher vs flora tomorrow?

proabably the biggest game in the region this year...Flora has a lot to prove coming from a sub .500 season last year and Dreher making it all the way to state. I like flora's odds if they come up playing up to their potential.

not only is this the biggest game in the region for both teams, its also a huge rivalry, making it that much better. if flora plays like they did against ben lipen, and dreher picks up their game, it should be a very fun match.

Lets not not forget last year Dreher made it to the finals of the state championship. They graduated many seniors but have a very strong juonior and sophmore class.They also have 2 players from the U-17 lexington state championship team this year. Their performance against camden was not one of their better but they still are a very strong team.
AC Flora usaually has a very good soccer program and this year it is even better, would not be suprised to see Flora win the region this year, and more to the mix of this huge rivalry game in witch anything could happen it will be a very good match for both sides tonight. looking foward to a great game tonight.

Dreher-1
AC Flora-0
Predictions were almost right-on for the Dreher/Flora game- it COULD HAVE BEEN a great game but for the trouble in the AC Flora stands and their coaches' behavior... Did not do justice to the Flora players.

Congrats Devils. Keep up the good work. 12 in a row in Region play! 23-3 regular season last two years. 4-0-1 against Flora last 5 matches.

Good luck the rest of the way. I'll keep reading.

Plenty of upset Flora fans and coaches...2 red cards on Flora asst coach and a fan for dissin the ref. Cant say I blame them much, Dreher, in the last 10 min. committed 2 clear fouls IN the box with wave-offs on both...that will p*ss someone off everytime! OTHERWISE a very close and entertaining game.

You should have been sitting in the stands next to those students as I was. I was intently listening for foul language and the closest thing to it was that "you suck" was said to the referee from the stands. Otherwise no four letter words were ever used. In fact I believe it was the Dreher student section that started the AC Flora Sucks cheer! The behavior by the coach was such that the referee was unable to control the game. Don't get me wrong the refs did not change the outcome of this game. In my opinion Dreher won the game the refs did not change any otucome. But I was a witness right next to the sidelines. Until the High School League starts truly rating their referees this situation will continue. The intial yellow card was because the coach was able to show that the ball had not gone out of bounds yet the ref still made the out of bounds call. It was right at both of their feet. The ref felt the coach had showed him up and that is why the yellow card was issued. No language beside the ball is still in was said! A very similar call was made in the JV game and I had the best position in the house to see that the ref made another very poor call. He was at one end of the line and I was at the other. At least they should have the refs swith sides of the field in between games. Over two games I am sure frustration wears on both the ref and coaches. But I guess if your stuck with a poor ref in one game it carries over to the next. The red card was due to the frustration of the coaches as they have had significant and very serious injuries this year due to referee's not controling the games. These refs interacted too much with the crowd not to expect the crowd to respond. If the refs don't want to here the crowd they should "completely" ignore the crowd. When they are willing to exchange words or looks with fans they are just asking for trouble in a physical game. I can't wait for an injured player to sue the districts due to the ineptitude of High School refs to control the game. It is coming to your neighborhood soon so they might want to reserve some cash for the lawsuits.

Calling fouls fairly before bedlam breaks out, especially in the box, will keep control on the field. No rocket science here, simply an understanding of the rules which seems to be missing in many cases. I'm not so sure the refs didnt have a say in the outcome of the Flora v Dreher game tonight. A foul in the box IS a PK...Dreher got away with two.This game could have ended 1-1 in regulation

dreher also had three hit off the post and one roll on the goaline

how did the other games in the region play out last night?

well said Soccer16...Last night's game was very dissapointing but this AC flora team has dealt with a lot of adversity this season and they will conquer this as well. Dreher is a talented team but so is flora. Teams should be careful near the end of the season and in the playoffs because ACF is capable of overcoming anything. The rematch of these two teams (at ACF) will be a great game.

There were no fouls in the box, they were 50-50 challenges that could have been called either way. Flora had almost no good shots, so you cant blame the refs for your loss.

If you read my post again you will notice that the refs have not been blamed for the loss. The referee's were blamed for their ineptitude in handling the game. I also blame the High School League for not taking action when it comes to the current state of referees in South Carolina soccer. They must put a grading system in place for referees and carry out discipline for those deemed unfit to ref. In addition, the league and districts must find a way to fund (if that truly is the issue) a 3 ref system. Too often the refs are out of position for a call which leads to questionable situations and don't tell me that refs (under the 2 ref system)don't guess at calls. They must guess at calls when they are out of position. That is the inherent flaw of the two ref system.

I have no alliance with either school. Those were not 50/50's when one ACF player was tripped(Dreher playing the MAN not ball) and the other was an outstretched arm push...just what I saw from 50 ft.

sidenet... if it was a foul it would have been called, the ref was right in front of it, less than ten yards away. The ref that would have called it if it were a foul, has been reffing for 15 years and also leads the classes to become a ref. If you have a problem with the ref then you should become a ref instead of criticizing him. I doubt that you could do much better.

I am a ref and I likely would have called one of the two, at least a spot just outside the box bare minimum and very possibly a PK. 3aSoccer, glad to see you agree with an official's calls. You are a rare person these days.

Im sure if your agreeing with the refs calls then your a dreher supporter. Many fouls went uncalled for dreher, they spent more time going for the player and obstucting then they did actually playing for the ball. Besides the 2 missed calls in the box there were many other cheap shots uncalled. flora also had there share of hits and bad play, but the refs called it every single time on flora, when it was called maybe 3 or 4 times against dreher. The flora crowd was very rowdy and it was obvious that there remarks got to the ref and he took it out on the team. It was a poor job of officiating. The ref red carded floras assisatant coach, which seemed extreme since he recieved no warning previously in the game. The same refs, reffed the jv game before varsity and it was apparent they were fed up with Flora from the begining because the calls went very similiarly to varsitys(In Drehers favor). You cant blame a loss on the refs, dreher did score a very nice goal, But theres a point where the refs dont have control over the game and it reached that point early in the game. Both teams came out and played with the intensity that you would expect in a rivalry game, and with better refs in the next showdown look for a different result. Good game to both teams.

why are all of you so biased to flora what have they done to be the best team this year?

If the Flora fans, coaches, & players don't get control of their respective emotions & conduct, they will not go very far.

No one has claimed flora to be the best team of the year or anything in that regard. They have put together a good team under there new coach, and do warrant some respect. emotions were running high for both flora and dreher last night. the crowds were the same with the insulting cheers, and things of that nature. but the refs did target flora a lot harder than dreher. that was evident to everyone in attendance.

I have been attempting to put any and all emotion aside in this conversation. My beef is with the High School League and the various schoold districts for not recognizing the need for a 3 ref system. The ref are out of position during the game whether or not they lead classes on officiating. A 3 ref system is used in basketball and the court is quite a bit smaller than the pitch. Why can't they recognize this fact? The out of position calls lead to discrpencies which only cause confrontation. Telling people to become refs is getting old. Many of us participate in big ways to support the local soccer community being a ref is not the only volunteering available. Oh, they get paid! At the very least have the officials switch sides during a match or at least between games. So everyones fans, players and coaches can experience the refs ineptitude in controling a game.

Very well said soccer16, a 3 ref system works so much better when trying to make important calls like offsides, out of bounds calls, and fouls in the box. I personally would be in favor of a 3 ref system, i think many games for many people would have turned out differently with proper officiating.

i agree that floras coach is skilled he was the elite coach for this past years U-14 CUFC team and most of the refs do not know what they're talking about half the time or what they are seeing

I agree. i think that to be a high school ref they should be more rigirously trained, and better prepaired to deal with tough games like flora vs dreher, where there are hard to make calls, and some pretty hard fouls. this is where the 3 ref system would really help, because 3 sets of eyes are better than 2.

even college and professionals use three refs why doesnt the state league smarten up and do the same?

because it would make to much sense! the league does a lot of weird things.
Its funny how this board has gotten so off topic from the region to high school refs.

How did the other games of tuesday night go? any scores or reviews?

does anyone know why the lugoff elgin dreher game was postponed yet again?

college and pros use 3 refs bc thats where the money is, im not sure there is a surplus of HS referees just waiting to do games

Blythewood 5 - 0 Chester
@ Chester; 2-0 at halftime

Wow 5-0, Good job to blythewood.

as for the refs, there should be more funding or something done to insure that these games are properly officiated.

the problem is not with the funding but the lack of interest to become soccer referees. It is hard for the league to come down on the refs when they know there is a shortage. The 3-ref system is definitely the way to go but unfortunatly we are a ways away from having one.

Tuesday's game was a great example of why this system should be put in place but until the interest picks up, we have to work with what we have.

For the most part, refs do a great job getting up and down the field for more than one game but when time and stress sets in, the problems occur.

Any thought on tomorrows contests?
Flora vs Blythewood should be a good rematch, after flora won the first game 2-1 even though they were short 5 starters.

I tried to ignore comments about 2 fouls at the end of the game. Neither one should have been a PK. The first so called foul the Flora player ran into the back of the Dreher player and they both fell down. The second one I guess you are talking about could have been called a foul. I would not have called it, but anyways it was outside the box. Someone caught it on film if you want to analyze it more.The Flora and Dreher players did a great job of just playing soccer. The Flora fans did use profanity,and the player that was ejected from the bench told the ref he "f"ing sucked. The assistant coach started with his comments during the pregame when he was told he could not represent the head coach at the coin toss. The second match should be even better. Both are good teams.

If the Flora assistant 'started up with comments' during pregame, then that is a problem right there to be corrected. Flora coaches and fans need to represent themselves and their school better at next game vs. Dreher.
Just play the game, regardless of the calls on the field. The Flora Head Coach gave the referee some props-
http://www.thecolumbiastar.net/Current/Sports/

so what does everyone think the outcome of lugoff vs camden tomorow night will be?

For anyone who wants corrections, The flora fans never once used a curse word. they had taunting remarks, but nothing to bad. The dreher fans however did use some profane words to players on the field that were on there side. the only cuss word used by flora was by the player on the bench who was red carded.

As for the article in the columbia star, Flora didnt have 2 assistant coaches red carded, one was, but the other was an injured player that was out for the season, not a coach. This article seemed to be very dreher biased and not a very good reflection of the game.

Lugoff vs camden should be interesting like it always is, since they have a good rivalry. I think Lugoff will pull out a close one, but dont be suprised if you see Camden with a W.

are you kidding. How is it biased and why would it be biased? Dreher does not fund The Columbia Star so why would they make it Dreher biased.

"A.C. Flora (6- 6, 3- 1): Shots 7, Saves 6 (Corey McCue).

Dreher (8- 3, 4- 0): Shots 15, Saves 3 (John Beck). Goals: Byron Quintoa. "

How is this not a good reflection of the game. this is what happened. Dreher had 15 shots, ACF had 7. Obviously Dreher dominated but they couldnt score!

I also heard that the parent was not an AC Flora parent but a Dreher parent who happened to be on AC Flora's side. I was standing right there and that parent said hardly anything to the ref to get ejected. The ref just couldn't handle anything after the downward turn of events. Again, High School league help the refs out give them 3 refs for each varsity game!

Not going to happen anytime soon.

However, YOU can do something about it. Not only write letters to the SCHSL and other public entities.. But many of the more established programs dip into their own budget to provide a 3rd official for rivalry matches.

(All it takes is a little cooperation between the two sides. IE: You guys cover the 3rd official for your home match and vice versa)

It's unfortunate that the teams would have to take it upon themselves, but for the time being until greater changes are made it's probably your best option.

Agreed. In other regions where I have coached, this was agreed on by all schools in the region.

All region matches had 3 officials, and it worked out well since it was a very competitive region with B-C, Dreher (at that time), Airport, and Chapin.

If your school can afford it, it is certainly worth the extra costs.

The only other problem that you may run into is that there is a lack of officials. If everyone started going to 3 officials for matches, Dennis would be struggling to get all matches covered.

Flora wins tonight 7-0 over blythewood.
good showing from the falcons!