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Actually, I'm still at work this afternoon, but regardless, here's the scoring update from Eugene E. Stone, III Stadium:

CLASS 2A/1A GIRLS -- Halftime
Bishop England 1-0 Woodruff

Feel free to add updates in this thread if you hear scores.

Come on p&y....cheer louder!!!!! Get those girls going!!!

Come on Woodruff!

15' left, Bishop England 1-0 Woodruff

WOODRUFF! WOODRUFF! WOODRUFF! WOODRUFF!

FINAL
Class 2A/1A -- Bishop England 1-0 Woodruff

Hey, BE is the class of the field and well done! Woodruff, you made the upstate proud and were fantastic this year! Well done and make it happen in '08!

CLASS 3A GIRLS
21', Eastside 1-0 Hilton Head

CLASS 3A GIRLS -- Halftime
Eastside 1-0 Hilton Head

So far it looks like the favorites are holding serve (that Heise is a genius!)

What a guy, what a guy...

What was the final score of the 3A game????

4A game score???

4A game's gotta be at least close to over by now...c'mon, where are those wireless laptops, guys?

what was the final on 3A

I heard Eastside won but I don't know the score.

Wando 1
Lex 0

At 3:34 Wando had 12 players on field playing. It quickly went downhill from there. Lexington deserved better from the ref.

Gunners04, Details! Is that the final score? How did it go downhill?

Woodruff made a great showing at state. We warned the team not to give BE set plays; in the first half BE got 2 back-to-back corners, with the second one resulting in a short cross and toe-poke goal.

WHS is only a 9-yr program competing with a private school and we showed that Woodruff is as good a soccer team as any in the state, I feel.

Never easy to lose—but we were more than competitive.

I heard a 2-0 lead for Eastside, but nothing final. . .

So did the LAdy Wildcats lose?

Maroonandgold, please tell the girls from Woodruff congrads.

OK with 12 players, you have an advantage in the last few minutes to prevent Lex from scoring. During 5-10 minute confer at sidelines, several player yellows were give, a coach yellow to Lex, then Lex coach red carded. 2 or 3 bottles thrown on the field and spectators getting teed off on both sides.
Play started back around 2 mins. Lex was given ball at mid, Wando back with 11 players. All this killed Lex's final push.
Game ended 1-0.
Refs escorted to locker room by a policeman.
A lousy way to end the season for both teams

They lost. I heard the Coach was given a red card and asked to leave because of the 12 player deal.

Sry gunners you beat me to it.

So The Lady Cats just take the lost with no protest? Did the ref ever acknowledge there were 12 players? Did they have 12 players on the field when they scored the 1 goal? Sorry I was not there so I have lots of questions.

Let it be known bottles were plastic, not anything else.

Class 4A Girls
FINAL -- Wando 1-0 Lexington

Kyle 3 things

1. Final score on 3A

2. How much truth behind the 12 players?

3. What can be done if there were 12 players?


My thoughts are game is over great season Lady Cats

This is definitely a bigtime ref error and there should be legitimate grounds for appeal. If there is a protest, the game should be re-started from the point that it can be determined there were 12 Wando players on field.

there were 12 players on the field for wando with about 7 minutes to go and it was not called until 2:08-ish left in the game. Lex. was punished for wandos mistake with 2 yellow cards and a red card. All lexington got was a kick. anyone know if that was the proper restart?

Wando scored first half and held on.
Well, the Lex coach protested himself out of the game. A Wando captain got a yellow - I thought is was for yelling at ref but maybe she was carded as the 12th man. Ref did make one Wando player leave the field.
Do not know about a formal protest. Game ended, ceremonies began quickly. Refs escorted to their locker room.

there was no time added back to the clock and the game was continued with approximently 2 min left.

Ok here we go again ...Refs went 5 mins not knowing there were 12 players on the field. *Incredible*

Had a feeling it would be a first-half score and a hold-on for the win for Wando...they're really good at that. Congrats to the Lady Warriors; good to see someone from our region winning the big one! Makes our loss to them seem all the more respectable! :-)

I never got to see Lexington score, but from all accounts, the Lady Wildcats are an excellent and deserving team; congratulations on making it to the finals and for a great season!

I like striker’s idea about a restart but I don't think that would ever be possible. I would think 12 players on field would be a RED card. Should play a man/ woman short. I know if you walk off the field with out a proper substitution then you will receive a Red Card. This happen at a game I was coaching. Coach yelled at one of his players to stop being lazy and the kid instead of responding to his coach just walked off. Kind of funny but the team was punished by playing a man down

The wando captain was yellow carded due to having 12 players on the field--that's the rule. She then came off the field. Play was restarted at about the 2 minute mark. Not sure how long the 12th player was on the field(I think a couple of minutes). Lexington's coach was 1st yellow carded and then red carded for the last 2 minutes.

Final scores:
Bishop England 1 Woodruff 0
Eastside 2 Hilton Head 0
Wando 1 Lexington 0

Thanks, Coach Morris.

Close matches—deserving teams. Shame AAAA always seems to end in drama.

It is my impression that Wando last subbed near 3:34 (no one came out?), at least under 5 min. to go. Play was stopped around 2 to 2:20 left and resumed there.

Gunners-I agree--there were 12 players on the field for under 2 minutes.

The big question is why the 4th ref, who's duty is to be responsible for subs, did not notice one player came on and then none came off?

the refs did not call numerous fouls and it does not suprise me that they did not "notice" the 12th player

It is sad that Referee Tanverdi, whose only job during the match was to control the substitutions, allowed a sub to come in without a player leaving the field. Very sad indeed.

OK first I really wanted the Lady CATS to win but please lets not take anything away from a team who scored on the Lady CATS and won the game. It is hard to say if having 12 players even helped them at all. If they only had 12 players for 2 minutes then I am not sure if LHS would have even been able to score during that time. Here is what I want to know. How did they score and did LHS play a good game? Anyone know some stats

lexington did play a good game. but the goal was rather cheap. it occured about 15 minutes into the first half. Lots of pushing in the box the entire game.

Lexington had the better of the play in my opinion. More possession, better passing and more shots. Credit Wando for not giving up any really great shots.

Wando scored on a free kick about 30-40 yards out. The ball was played to back side of the goal where Lexington's keeper came off the line just as the ball was redirected by a Wando's player head.

Sounds like a great game! So is Lexington able to do this again next year or will they lose too many players

I thought that Wando played a very good game, especially the 1st 15 minutes. Very early on they played one off of the cross bar, and then the goal came 10-15 minutes into the game on a set play. I wouldn't call it a cheap goal, the Wando girl charged the ball and just got a little touch on the ball. Enough of a touch to deflect the ball such that the Lex keeper over ran the ball and it rolled into an empty net. I don't think that the 12th player is the reason that Lex did not score. How long was the extra player on?? 2 minutes? 5 minutes? How about the other 75 minutes where Lex could not put on in?? You've got to score to win, and Wando played well enough to deny Lex a goal.

i apologize. cheap was not the right wording of the goal scored by wando. they did play a good game but lexington controlled the field and the ball for a most of the game

I agree that Lex did play a very good game and controlled possession for much of the game. They are a very talented team and had a great year. I hate to see this game tainted by a ref's mistake. But the bottom line is that Lex was not able to score, and Wando made a nice play to put one in.

It should also be pointed out that Wando's coach was the one that pointed out the 12 players on the field.

Coach, I have made this point on the "Disaster at 4A Championship" thread. I was impressed that a coach would make such an effort to stop the game and self report a mistake like this.

This game was not a YMCA game. She didnt need to tell them that.

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I think he means that it shouldn't have been the coaches' responsibility to notify the referees because they should be trained and able to identify the issue themselves, as if their "job" on the field, unlike in a YMCA match wherein the referees are probably lesser 'educated' volunteers that may not notice things on their own.

IT IS NOT THE COACHES JOB!!!!! ok so the ref on the sidelines w/ his little air horn had only 1 job and that was to count the players and make sure the # of subs that go on the field have an equal amount of players that come off its basic math

tanverde sucks i hope he never gets to ref again he has consistently been one of the WORST refs in the midlands

and the sad part is he has taught one of my ref classes

ya he taught my ref class too..

All of you need to get past this 1:11. Its called a part of life, and life is not always perfect and fair.
Tandverde has a great knowledge and love of the game. The bigger question you may need to ask is why did Lexington not score in all the other 79 mins. of the game?

Whoa, whoa, whoa Mr. Sensitive! We're all past this and while you might enjoy personally being responsible for kick starting the ant hill all over again, we're all going back to our peace and harmony.

Sounds like somebody might be a friend/fan/or father of this Tandverde...or maybe...the man himself!

Not kicking the ant hill again. Just thought there should be one supportive comment among the many negative ones.

I think The State is trying to make amends for their overly-sensational 'Dirty Dozen' story-
http://www.thestate.com/197/story/66530.html

2004striker,

Since you don’t seem to want to let this go, then I will add some further commentary. If I could use an analogy from American Football, maybe it will allow many to understand how Lexington players/fans might feel.

The Gamecocks are playing for the National Championship in College Football against the Fighting Irish from Notre Dame – noted for their rock-solid defense. Notre Dame gets a score early and then bunkers in, allowing their defense to win it for them, just like it has all year. As the game wears on USC is beginning to make some first downs and starting to find some seams in the Irish defense. No scores result but Gamecock fans are optimistic that Coach Spurrier will find a way to get something generated eventually. Then late in the fourth quarter the Irish coaches are catching on to what the USC coaching staff is doing with their passing game, and decide that with their tiring defense they will need to insert an extra defensive back to try to slow down the Gamecocks. The problem is that someone forgets to tell the middle linebacker that he will not be on the field for the next series, and he enters the game anyway. The referees don’t notice it, and Notre Dame shuts down USC for a “three-and-out”. During the commercial break the TV folks pick-up on the error and everyone back home watching on TV now knows that the Irish were playing with twelve men on the field during a critical juncture. Soon after the Gamecock fans in the stadium find out what happened, and well, you can imagine the feelings in the stadium at this point. Coach Spurrier then gets irritated and he chews on the head referee to point that he is flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct. So not only is there no penalty on Notre Dame but they get fifteen yards of field position to boot for an error that their own coaching staff made. Wow!!! Of course, the players now know what happened, which causes them to lose their focus and eventually the game – even though they had one more possession to try and get a score – albeit with much worse field position.

Do you honestly believe that The State Newspaper is NOT going to produce a “overly-sensational” story at this point? I can hear the quotes from Coach Spurrier now, “We thought it seemed pretty tough to complete a pass on that second-to-last series, but none of us ever thought to count the defenders on the field. I guess we assumed the referees would be doing that. Their coaches must have felt that was the only way to win the game, and they got away with it.” Of course the Irish fans would be saying something to the effect of, “Geesh folks get over it. I mean, come on, that drive lasted all of 37 seconds. What were you doing the other 59 and a half minutes of the game? Coach Weis would never willingly cheat just to win. It was just a mistake. They happen all the time in sports.” And of course, Coach Weis, “I noticed we had too many people when they were coming off of the field after that series. It was just one series, there were dozens of other mistakes made in that game too.” How do you think Gamecock fans would feel if the NCAA said that The State Newspaper and Coach Spurrier owed Notre Dame and Coach Weis a public apology? After all, Notre Dame should be allowed to enjoy their championship.

Mistakes happen, the game is OVER, and the championship is definitely decided, and I believe that has been stated on here (it least it has by me). However, some on here feel like there needs to be closure. I don’t!!! It’s just another lesson that both Lexington AND Wando will just live with (and, if it’s the worst that happens to any of them, then they can consider themselves extremely lucky). I, for one, really don’t care if Wando is “allowed to enjoy” their championship or not. That’s up to them, not me or any other Lexington coach/player/fan. Do you think that Seahawk fans no longer question whether Roethlisberger actually crossed the goal line? Do you think that Gamecock fans readily admit that Clemson receiver Rod Gardner really didn’t push the defender off when he made his game-deciding catch? Fortunately, it’s just sports!!! But, please don’t be delusional!

Some on here don’t seem to be able to deal with the fact that the sideline referee (most notably), along with the Wando coaches and players made a mistake – a mistake that has virtually NO penalty for the offending team. As a for instance, if in my scenario above the referees DID happen to catch ND with too many players on the field, it would have been a 15-yard penalty and an automatic first down – DRIVE EXTENDED, CHANCE TO SCORE INCREASED!!! Of course, that is what some of us relatively new to soccer have come to expect from a sport that is willing to decide its WORLD champion with something as ridiculous as PK’s!!!

2004striker-I do not subscribe to The State newspaper and I appreciate you posting the link here. The previous headline of "Dirty Dozen" was more than just "overly sensational". It was insulting and accusatory.
Just for the record, Wando and our community is enjoying our championship very much.

deahler,
As you can tell, I did not write today's article in The State. And I did not post this to continue the debate. I only listed it for those interested in reading the obvious change in the paper's view of the situation.

See what you've done 2004? Tried to warn you...

Yeah, I shoulda listened to you. I gotta learn one day, when to shutup.

Good stuff deahler!! right on to everything!!

You mean well and that's what matters

Good job deahler on your final post.

Now you can head over to those other message boards and complain about the distance of the 3-point line.

Good luck!

Every game, any sport, any situation could find some error, coaching, player, ref, whatever. The difference is how the other team handles it. (and the paper) We could find mistakes, in that game or any other to cry foul, but we move on and admit when we lose a game. There never has been, or ever will be a perfectly referred game. EVER. You could review any event and find some error. Many way more impacting than an extra player for a minute. Go review some films. I hope if you guys beat us next year, we will lose graciously! We have done it before. I wish all the teams well and hope the refs do a better job next year. Let it go!

Sigh...they just keep posting.

"GAMECOCKS"....."NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP"
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Ha! I missed that!!! Eeeeeeeeeheeeeeheeeeeeheeeee!!!!!