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A straight red for Espinoza would have been a fair trade. Ref should have taken a better look at Valentin's mug before he chose his punishment. No way that boy was getting back in the game.


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by the way, WAS that a handball on the WF's second goal?
and the ball looked out on the first one too.
oh well hats off to Wake Forest for the comeback




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There is a slow motion replay at the 0.53 mark. Handball issue looks to be inconclusive at best, but I think it came off his chest.

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The ball never comes up to his chest on the replay. He clearly knocks it down with his right hand or elbow. It was right in front of the AR, since Ref was still back on other end.

Also, stats were incredibly even-
Ohio St. 12 shots 5 SOG 1 G 1 A 19 fouls
Wake 12 5 2 2 18 fouls

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He clearly knocks it down with his right hand or elbow.





..clearly.

I'll broaden my statement to "torso", but you can't say (from that replay) that anything "clearly" happens.

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I Am a Ref. I clearly know the definition of clearly.........and it was "clearly" knocked down.

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Being a referee doesn't mean you see or do anything "clearly." I wouldn't boast that as justification.

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I clearly issue Beezer a Red Card.........

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I was at the game. It wasn't a handball; didn't even look like a handball.

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Tracy, who committed the handball, does not sound definitely 'clear' about the call -

>Tracy powered his way through two defenders on the right flank, then juked past Doug Verhoff before crossing a pass to the middle of the field. Schilawski beat Ohio State goalkeeper Casey Latchem with a one-hop shot just inside the right post.

Latchem sprinted over to an official to argue that Tracy had touched the ball with his hand early in the sequence, and Latchem received a yellow card.

"In watching the television replay following that goal, I thought it was pretty apparent that there was a handball on the play," said Ohio State coach John Bluem, whose team allowed more than one goal for only the second time since Sept. 23. "That's what Casey was upset about."

Tracy, who tied the game in the 66th minute with a goal on a feed from Cody Arnoux, disagreed with the Buckeyes' assessment.

"I've played in a lot of games, and controversial calls have gone both ways," said Tracy, who was named the tournament's Most Outstanding Offensive Player after tallying three goals and an assist in the College Cup. "I don't think it was a handball personally, and they didn't call it. So that's just the way it goes."<

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Whatever you say, buddy.

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