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Greco3 #97979 03/31/08 03:39 AM
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All personal biases aside (no goalkeeper really WANTS to be carded on a charge like that) I still have to go with no foul on that one. The second the goalkeeper commits to diving, he loses a certain amount of control over how his momentum takes him. Goalkeepers (whether trained by professionals or just their ol' high school coach) are taught to cover as much area as possible...on dives, that means one leg should be literally in the air (maybe not quite as high as this guy's, but I'm not critiquing form here). His whole body's momentum was going in the direction of the oncoming forward...collisions like that happen. It was unfortunate that the forward ate a little soil, sure, but not a foul.

No card, no foul. Play on.

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Every program should be REQUIRED to film their games (it is not difficult) for this exact reason - and more!

The fact that we can review this scenario rather than just reading faceless accounts is an encouraging development in the game. With the accessibility of image/video hosting sites like youtube and google video I hope this is just the beginning.

Greco3 #97981 03/31/08 11:14 AM
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I wasn't there as I was in California, don't know which two teams or the ref's involved. But a question to those present. After the ball was kicked did the keeper's hands touch the kicker's feet? Or did the kicker fake the dive? The video seams to support the first, but it's a distant video. The US team was awarded a free penalty in the U-23 Olympic qualifying tournament in an identical situation...

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i have not looked at the video yet – this is in response to a few comments i've seen here.

i agree that once you start into a slide tackle, it's kinda hard to stop yourself – simple physics - but to say that a player should not be called for a foul because they couldn't stop themselves? can you people actually be serious?

i can see it now . . .

player: ref, i know I broke that guy's leg, but, but, uh, when I started into the slide tackle, i just KNEW it was gonna be a clean tackle, but then, uh, he touched the ball at the last second, and, uh, he had already shot and WAY missed the goal, and, uh, I was already WAY into my slide, uh, and I just couldn't stop. i didn't mean to do it – it was an accident, you know, bad timing.

ref: oh, ha ha. my bad. i thought it was just a vicious tackle. sorry. well, in that case, no card, no foul. somebody get this screaming kid off my pitch. play on!

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After further review ... It's not a penalty!

BamBam #97984 03/31/08 12:50 PM
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Why was the AR not questioned about the call because he had the better view and didn't attempt to raise his flag???


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Jackson, Samuel L. YOU WOULD SAY THAT!!!!!!

I saw the tape and the game. Here's my conclusion:

That's about right for Marion Shull!


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Is ANYONE who has made a comment a referee (High School, NISOA, USSF)??? or at least attended a referee training course in the last 3 years??? REPLAYS??? SLOW MOTIONN???


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Yes, I asked a question for those present...no one bothered to directly answer. And yes Soccer is not a sport in which we use REPLAYS, we leave that for the other sports.

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you have to card the keeper, while he was coming out to make himself as big as possible, he did take out the man and the leg was raised pretty high on the kid

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