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Region IV:

Aiken
Dutch Fork
Irmo
Lexington
North Augusta
Orangeburg-Wilkinson
Richland Northeast
White Knoll

Wow. That's no fun at all.

Are you speaking of lacking quality matches?

I thought the region you posted was to be region 5 not 4????

Here is all of the new re-aligned regions

http://www.schsl.org/2007/Realignment%202008-10.htm

So racking up goals isn't fun? Sorry...thanks for the extra motivation to make it a bit more fun for you in the future!

Region 5 3A, will be the hardest region in 3A

Airport #2 3A
Brookland-Cayce #3 3A
Dreher #7 3A
Midland Valley no team...
South Aiken #9 4A
Swansea #14 3A

only 4 teams make the playoffs....?

region II is death row

You're right, Region 5.

Poor BE is Region VI

Ashley Ridge

Bishop England

Burke

Cane Bay

Garrett

Woodland

Bah. Private schools are excluded from sympathy

Region 2 for both 3A and 4A are death! It's a shame that Riverside is not in that Region!

This is by far the most ludicrous alignment handed down in a long series of head-scratchers.

Amazing.

So region 5 has 8 teams only 4 of which can make playoffs. But other regions only have 5 teams??? how is this fair?

Then you are allowed 16 games in a season. I assume you still have to play everyone twice (that's 14 for the mathematically challenged) that leaves 2 out of region games and tournaments (which potentially could be playing in-region team)

Who is the braniac behind this alingment????? OOOPSSS!!!!


I apologize profusely I did not mean to step on the toes of the mighty football machine. I beg forgiveness I am immediately changing my soccer balls for footballs.... Iwill immediately send money for the football machine's...err...... machine....so they can claim they own everything....

This is all BS. It reduces travel for football but not for the other sports

The thing is..it doesn't even make sense for football!

RNE traveling to Aiken?
Spring Valley to Rock Hill?
Rock Hill and Northwestern in different regions?
Lugoff-Elgin to Chapin (Camden across the river and in a different region)??
Carolina Forest to Sumter?

I'm curious what the issue is with having more/smaller regions and just having a different equation/system for determining playoffs -etc. With two years to figure this out..I just can't believe this is what we're given.

That's a lot of cash in gas that could be turned around, just to think up a new formula...

Region 2 4A
Boiling Springs
Byrnes
Dorman
Hillcrest
Mauldin
Spartanburg

Region 5 4A
Aiken
Dutch Fork
Irmo
Lexington
North Augusta
Orangeburg-Wilkinson
Richland Northeast
White Knoll

strongest 4A regions

Region 5 3A
Airport
Brookland-Cayce
Dreher
Midland Valley
South Aiken
Swansea

Region 2 3A
Berea
Eastside
Greenville
J. L. Mann
Travelers Rest
Wade Hampton

the 2 strongest 3A regions

I would not complain too much about poor BE. You are inviting comments about whether or not BE is properly classified as a 2A school due to their ability to recruit and give scholarships; have kids from 3 different counties enrolled; etc.....

Some time it is prudent to lay low and remain silent.

Any schools—private or public—that have attendance policies that include students/athletes OUTSIDE the zoned attendance area should be automatically AAAA. Period.

looks like Riverside got an easy ride in a region, may be wrong, nothing bad meant toward anyone just a little off

All private schools lie within zones that exist for the closest public schools right? While that attendance zone doesn't apply to the private schools technically, it SHOULD if they wish to participate with public schools that do have to abide by those restrictions.

Many private schools do NOT choose to participate with public schools, thus they all play by the same rules.

Currently, some private schools are allowed to participate with public schools but live by different rules (both academic and athletic).

Here's what the League has to say, from the SCHSL Constitution, page A-28:

POLICIES GOVERNING CONTESTS WITH NON-PUBLIC HIGH SCHOOLS
Non-public high schools are either members or non-members insofar as the League's rules and
regulations are concerned. The non-public schools that are members of the League must abide by all
rules and regulations of the League. The non-member schools must follow only minimum requirements
in order to compete with member schools.
LEAGUE MEMBERSHIP - A non-public high school may become a member of the League if such
school is accredited by the Southern Association of Secondary Schools and Colleges and the principal
of the school agrees to conform to all rules and regulations of the League.

Before being considered as a member of the League, the non-public school must clearly define its
attendance area as one of the following: (1) the attendance area of the public school in whose
attendance area the school is located, (2) the school district in which the school is located, and (3) the
county in which the school is located.

Now, defining your attendance area as an entire district or county isn't quite the same as having it restricted to a single-school attendance area in most cases...but it is considered legal by the League. So, a private school can RECRUIT from a multiple-4A attendance zone, but as long as they only ACCEPT 2A numbers, that's where they compete.

Hm. Why would anyone consider that an unequal advantage?

Coach Chass, sorry, my comment was more of disrepect for how the region matchups are put together than for an individual school. I'm sure our football opponents don't mind seeing Wando in their region.

Scoring goals is kinda the intent of the game, but after about 4 goals it becomes more uncomfortable than fun .
Especially against a well liked coach and a group of girls that give it all they've got.

Best of luck to your girls the rest of the season! I hope you win the rest of your games. Except the rematch on the 15th. We don't need that much "fun".

No offense taken; I understand the dilemma on both sides! Everyone would benefit from a balanced, competitive challenge; it's really no fun for good, sportsmanlike people to be on either side of an uneven matchup. Plus the fact that a top-level team will be better off come playoffs time if they've honed themselves against strong competition in the regular season.

I really think teams like mine benefit more from playing teams like Wando than the other way around; we've gotten better by playing against some of the best--having something to reach for is a good thing.

And seriously...we will do our best to make it a little more fun next time around--for your sake and ours!

Alright, I want in on the group hug!

Aw, c'mere, ya big lug...

Coach chass
Your school is defined by attendence zones and you can recruit outside of that zone BUT that family has to move within your zone to play for you..Say I start a private school on main st in Moncks Corner and I want a competitive girls soccer program...I get to recruit within any zone I want AND the families do not have to live in a zoned area..they just have to provide transportation to my school just blocks away from your school...Sound fair to you?

Does beating up on 2A schools make B.E. better? The ability to bring players from anywhere does...They should play where they would have some competition to get better.
Down here that would be 4A ball.
Playing the stronger teams does not always make you better when you can never find a way to win.Your disadvantage is no soccer club in the area so your players are not getting soccer year round at competitive levels

Coach Chass, et al:

I know this is about region realignment so excuse my tangent. . .and thanks for the info, Coach Chass (and I hope your question was sarcastic. . .).

Let's not ignore two things:

(1) A few private schools have dominated A and AA sports with an unfair advantage over their public school rivals. If anyone thinks the dominance is for any reason other than the unfair advantages, that is naive.

(2) Some PUBLIC schools have unfair advantages because of public school choice in SOME counties (thus larger population from which to "recruit") and not others. . .which I feel also is an unequal playing field.

There are many instances in the state of students attending schools primarily to play a specific sport. With private schools and some public schools, all that is required is transportation, while in most public schools it requires actually living in the zoned area.

These are inequities that are easy to address by governing bodies.

This is the same as private schools NOT having to comply with the same accountability mandates that our public schools do—along with private schools being allowed to be selective. THEN we want tom compare public and private schools! (The interesting thing about this is that it is only Urban Legend that private schools outperform public schools. When all factors are held constant, there is no difference. . .I can share the research if anyone cares.)

Emerald used to be the big voice against BE, but Woodruff is the one that is affected the most now. Straight to AAAA sounds fair to me, but what do I know? Jack - Ron - Morris - CJ - Hurst don't answer that.

Recruting and kids switching schools to get a leg up on their sports career, is an age old problem

example 1. Michael Jordon, left AAA power Pender Co. High school, to go to Laney a AAAA power in Wilmington N.C., the only reason he left was to get a better shot at being recurited, Poor Pender Co. had to play Laney in B-Ball, that sucks...

Former BSHS QBack left and went to Gaffney to be a starting QB, dude, like they need the help. And yes BSHS had to play him.

Valdosta GA, parents of good football players would get better jobs offered them to move into the Valdosta area, so they could pull in more good players, coaches in South GA, get 80,000 to 100,000 a year, so where the good players goes matters.

I myself had an offer to go to private high school(many, many, many years ago) for free if, I would play football. Boy they were reaching for any help they could get...

I love what you and your program does, I applaud the kids that dedicate their time to play all year and become the best they can be, I see your kids play AAAA schools toe to toe with no fear or trepidation. (sic maybe)

However, the size and location of your school, will dicate that your kids play up hill from now on... I hate it and, agree the private schools, and large University like schools get players, just because, and just because the school reaches out for them.

I'll never catch up with Dale Jr. (who has the advantage of having many personalities posting on the same account) in number of posts, either, but now I'm only 14 away from finally scoring a "goal"...little victories! Just a few more, Chass...just a few more...

Ha, I'm about 19 post from "Stop playing Halo, move out from your mother's basement, and get a life!"|

Well, hey...when you move out, is that basement available? I'm looking for a new place.

Especially if you leave Halo behind as well.