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you missed all the good stuff if you are hung up on the money thing. It is just part of the elite soccer scene.
How in the world do we as adults ignore the overwhelming data that shows we are the ones who are running kids away, and putting our desires and dreams on the kids? Remember the person who wrote we have to get the good 8 year olds together. There were some good points in what I wrote, the blessed Europeans have missed it for years... Go to Give Us Back Our Game and watch the video.
That is what I see when I watch our fields today. (Ours means all of the fields I see, yours, mine, everywhere) We have to quit pushing our kids too early... it is just wrong... "My kid has to play challenge""they need to train with the best" OMG - nobody can tell the best DA. Watching a match I saw 10 knee braces on two challenge teams at an MPSC tourney, keep on push, push, push, see what you get, blow back...
you are the one that said if you dont pay you dont play.im not hung up on the money thing. you keep saying we to everything.dont put me in your boat.im not running anyone off,im not pushing anyone and mine is not wearing a knee brace.if you do not like what you are seeing on the field then go and watch golf.ITS ON TV NOW.i still have a problem with your ideas that only the kids who's parents fork out the cash get to play on the good teams.you are the one hung up on the money thing.if what you say is true then maybe you need to go get a second mortgage
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I think the point is that if ODP was free or cheaper that more boys and girls would tryout..The ones that tryout are the ones that can afford it so the numbers are lower..the chances of making the team are greater because of the numbers..
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PAPA ...sometimes your statements are made without a sound basis... Although I agree that many adults push the kids in the wrong direction, I do not agree with your European comments. The players in Europe come out of the academies of the professional clubs, this is akin to minor league Baseball.
Traditional American sports require certain characteristics, (Football and Basketball size for example) which you can wait for as the player grows up.
Baseball on the other hand (I am not a fan)requires more skill earlier, which means earlier introduction. But you can still wait for the athlete.
It is my experience that pure Athletes cannot catch up in soccer as quickly as some believe (except goalkeepers = Hands ...i.e football, basketball, baseball). Early introduction to ball handling is key. so developing the player early on is necessary....
Now Mom and Dad going crazy on the sidelines is a different issue.
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I think the point is that if ODP was free or cheaper that more boys and girls would tryout..The ones that tryout are the ones that can afford it so the numbers are lower..the chances of making the team are greater because of the numbers..
i will agree with that. that is not what his statement implied and you know it. i would take my daughter and some of the other girls on the odp team and put them up against anyone.they are the best players in the state at their age no matter how much money their parents paid.
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The good part was that somebody who thinks they are omnipotent and can seperate the good 8 year olds for the 8 year olds who are not "good". How people are pidegon holeing kids before it is possible to do so, and that their desire to have their kid play at the highest level is causing sport specific injuries. The kids simply want to "play".
I will leave the money issue for a different time, but the point is we worry too much about winning, winning now, and our kids getting trained with the best at inception.
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go watch the video at Give us back our Game, that is what is happening in Europe. Just reporting the news on this one.
The thing on birth dates and world cup teams is real. Google expertise and soccer age. A nice study is done on the topic. Just reporting the facts on that one.
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i went off the deep end a long time ago.i promise you it had nothing to do with the fun i am having here today.you are also right that i need a second job but i can not afford the gas to get to it.another mortgage would be an option for me but i need to pay off the other 2 first.i did not bring up what you can afford for your family but i am glad you have that covered.since you have made it clear about my shortcomings in the finance dept that should show you that not all the good players buy their way to where they need to be.did yours get left off something as to where you would have these opinions of us rich people.
one last thing.im not the smartest person in the world so next time you are going to use words like omnipotent give the definition with it.
no need to edit stuff out you say about me papa.i promise you i mean what i write.
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that is exactly what I meant. We should try to grow ODP, by changing the price sturcture. I am on record before the ODP try outs as saying so. My writing may have confused you, my bad.
Go watch the Give Us back Our Game video, and google expertise and soccer age, interesting stuff.
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pleae note I edited that one note back to you, taking it down a notch, but did not get it done before your replied again. Really we are all saying alot of the same things. Forgive me, I was a little upset when you questioned my finances, but who gives a rip. Sorry
Google, Give us Back our Game, and expertise with soccer age
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