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You can order any color shirt you want from a catalog. It doesn't mean anything except to differentiate from players' uniforms.
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Guys & Gals, Wow... Tough crowd today  - (so why should today be any different than any other day  ) Consider perhaps that W2G may be new to SCYSA or the SCHSL. There is a pretty active soccer league in their area that is not USYSA affiliated. Perhaps that league uses shirt color rather than badge color to signify ref level. Would make sense. If nothing else, almost everyone now-a-days buys their yellow shirt first. Only the "old-timers" are sure to be carrying their black ones (or resistant to buying those new brightly colored ones), so the correlation does hold at least a little-bit of truth to it?. 
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we all know what makes a ref bad is when he makes calls against your team.he makes alot against us.
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there is no grade 1; the lowest is grade 8 and you move up to FIFA. now college and high school may do something different but scysa uses ussf referees that start at grade 8. once again the shirts mean nothing, as said earlier it is a color to differentiate from the teams playing. They told us to get at 2-3 shirts for our ref kit.
I as said refereeing is subjective and refs call things how they see them. The ref should be in control and be neutral but that does not happen all the time.
FYI to all-referees remember teams, coaches, and players and sometimes that can effect things-although it shouldn't-but i saw it in a high school i was watching...first few minutes one ref who had a problem with one team was blowing his whistle and gave a yellow in 10 minutes as a player told his teammates that to play hard as they were not going to get anything..this was not to the referee but he had done stuff in a previous game. As a coach and a ref too, i keep my mouth shut for the most part--
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Does SCYSA have any kind of evaluation, or review process, after a referee is licensed? The weaknesses associated with criticism by coaches, players, or parents are obvious, but is there an ongoing peer review among their ranks? Just wondering.
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Recently (last year or two) a Grade 9 level was added as well. I think this level can run lines for the classic leagues and perhaps center at U14 rec & below. Basically, due to the shortage of refs in the fall, we needed to add a "short course" to the sequence so we could get youth refs certified to run lines / center rec games on non-game days & thus free up the more highly certified refs for the upper end duties.
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Consider perhaps that W2G may be new to SCYSA or the SCHSL. There is a pretty active soccer league in their area that is not USYSA affiliated. Perhaps that league uses shirt color rather than badge color to signify ref level. Would make sense.
Using shirt color to signify grade level does not make sense for 2 reasons:
- If the referee crew were made up of different grade referees, which happens often, the referees would have different color shirts. FIFA and USSF require the entire crew to where the same color.
- If the referee's grade called for a red shirt and one of the teams is wearing red, there would definitely be an issue.
BTW, the USSF Referee Administrative Handbook can be found here. The grade levels are defined on pages 16-17. The uniforms are described on page 24. Gold (yellow) is still the primary shirt color. Alternate colors are black, red, blue, green.
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Does SCYSA have any kind of evaluation, or review process, after a referee is licensed? The weaknesses associated with criticism by coaches, players, or parents are obvious, but is there an ongoing peer review among their ranks? Just wondering.
SCYSA does not evaluate referees, but the state referee committe of USSF has a director of assessment and trained assessors who periodically assess USSF certified referees. Assessments at certain level games are also required for referee level upgrades. From the scref.org site:
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PURPOSE OF ASSESSMENT PROGRAM
All referees need to be evaluated by an unbiased, third party assessor as to receive feedback on their progress, along with recommendations on how they might improve to better serve the clubs and state soccer association. It is during an assessment that you will receive valuable feedback to help you to grow and learn from an experienced official. Our state has many high level referees, all of whom rose up through the ranks through the assessment program.
The assessment procedure will look at the match for overall control, fairness, fitness, character, integrity, knowledge and judgment. The South Carolina Youth Soccer Association and the South Carolina Amateur Soccer Association have adopted a policy that all State Tournaments will first use referees who have been through the upgrade process, and second referees who are recommended by their ARAs or an Assessor. The Assessors will offer suggestions and encouragement to make you a better referee. Feel free to discuss any and all concerns with your Assessor pertaining to your performance or things you feel you need to work on.
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All USSF referees are also required to attend an annual recertification course.
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Come to think of it, I do remember a new referee being assessed in an adult co-ed game, and it was an absolute nightmare. It seemed to us (on both teams) that he was making a call every 30 seconds in order to demonstrate his knowledge of the laws of the game. 
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i agree with Coach P. Even as a new certified ref i would like feedback on ways to better myself on the field and how to correct them. You want to ref a good game each time and have everyone respect you on the field. I was told in our certification class that you can get assessed anytime, but i don't think it is consistent. I think to upgrade is where you are going to be assessed, not to be recertified unless there are several complaints on you.
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