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It still goes back to if the stated goal of SC ODP is holdovers. If it is, then the state has along way to go to do that. You cannot rely on the cream rising to the top as too much of the evaluation process is subjective. Florida does not have so much better overall talent than SC, NC or GA, otherwise their teams would be better. IF you are one of the top players in all of region III, then you should be dominant enough to help your team gets results in league play. The point is, the Florida group IS working the system better- better than NC, GA and SC. There are a handful of obvious top players- these are players that other teams know and build schemes to play. Then, there are a host of quality players that COULD be heldover. This is where the behind the scenes work is paying off for Florida
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If you are referring to behind the scenes work by state team coaches, then I'm in agreement with you. It is the job of the state team coach to push the players he/she thinks are qualified to be considered. If you are saying a Florida administrator is doing the selling of every player within all boys and girls age groups, then I have to respectfully disagree with you. That's not even humanly possible to do with any level of credibility.
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How does the State measure it's success? There should be a measuring tool to determine whether the state is moving in the right direction or moving at all..Has there been any changes made over the last two or three years within the ODP system in SC to help foster a more successful program? These are the questions that need to be addressed..
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So only one coach got a player held over for four age groups?
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So only one coach got a player held over for four age groups?
no. the player got her own self held over.
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What I find fascinating, as our old friend Shibumi would have said.....is that I've heard folks say that in SC the pool of talent for girls is better than the pool of talent for boys.
Yet 91-94 boys have something like 14 kids that made region pool versus 1 for the girls?
Something isn't right.
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I don't understand why anyone would be expecting Mary Bynum to be lobbying for SC players inclusion in region pool? Her job as I understand it is to make sure the trains run ontime.
Make sure that age groups have coaches, tryouts are held in a standard manner, communications are made, paperwork completed, fees collected, etc.
I would argue......that if you were to broaden the expectations for what she does......it would be to add a strategic angle to her job. Why are certain age groups successful and others not? How can best practices be shared by successful age groups with less successful age groups. How can SCYSA change its ODP program to make it more competitive?
The last thing I'd expect.....or want.....is for any administrator to be making or lobbying or having any input whatsoever....into soccer decisions of any kind. Thats why you have soccer professionals out there....
Is there bias in region selections? I'm sure there are. But as a friend told me......the top 15 kids in the region ARE getting selected. Its the next 15 kids where there's squabbling. And those are the kids unlikely to make the region team anyway.
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So only one coach got a player held over for four age groups?
no. the player got her own self held over.
And congratulations to her!!!!! Maybe that "team first" attitude pays off individually. Imagine!!!
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Good point. I'm the one who stated that a former SC college coach (now coaching in NC) told me that he thought the talent pool for girls in South Carolina was deeper than the talent pool for boys.
Based on the current Region III ODP camp, either some of the best girls in South Carolina did not attend, or he was DEAD WRONG!
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I just hope that when December comes around..There might be some different things going on instead of settling for what it is..I don't see the numbers getting any better without some sort of change as far as the girls are concerned
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Or the boys coaches are lobbying more for their kids?
Or on the girls side, maybe other states have REALLY high powered coaches who are more successful at getting their kids into the region pool.
The 92 girls don't surprise me THAT much. I don't think there's a 91 or 92 club team in SC that strikes fear in the hearts of CASL Elite or Charlotte Soccer Club or whoever the beasts of GA are. I remember 2 years ago the CESA U13 girls winning the U14 State Cup. How does that happen?
But those 93 CESA Premier girls are highly competitve regionally. Maybe those kids have 94 birthdates....
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