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Like I said earlier, it didn't matter how certain players played, they held spots for players that didn't even participate in AL. If you were a winger on the 92 girls you were out of luck, they held that position for two girls not in attendance. Is that fair? probally ,if you are a National team player.

Folks, there is no conspiracy. SC female players are just not good enough yet! I think everyone gets caught up by high school and CESA standards in this state but when SC clubs/players compete at top club/ODP events, they are not close to the highest level. Most players and parents can't, hate to or don't want to see it. But it's true.

Hurst,

How about:

Generally speaking.....

1. SC girls aren't as good as SC girls parents think they are.

2. SC girls ODP coaches are out-lobbied by other states coaches on girls 16-40.

Altho,

This doesn't explain why the boys are evidently taken so much more seriously than the girls. Either:

1. The boys coaches hold their own in lobbying for their players.

2. SC produces more quality players (or is perceived to) on the boys side.

3. Academy has already diluted ODP on boys side.

Kickinit
There is no arguement that the S.C. girls are behind the other states..My stance is why do we as a state accept
that? When do you start changing what your doing and move in a more proactive direction? When one player gets held over it does not say alot about the program..Awareness!!
If we take the attitude that we are last and just accept it then why bother offering a program at all.

Big Daddy, kick70, cht,

In effect, what you are saying is:

CESA can't develop female players.
Columbia United can't develop female players.
Bridge can't develop female players.

Wow!

Not going there...Maybe we don't push the players hard enough for fear that some will fall out due to the numbers we have..No easy answers..but do we just shrug our shoulders and say OH WELL..

I beleive that winning at the regional level has to do with state size, size of the pool of players from the state, and quality of soccer in each state. Unfortunately you are finding out that by living in a smaller state without a huge metropolitan area, you are not going to have the quality of players that you would get in large states with large metropolitan areas. We have been told that there are only 4 really good soccer areas in the country.
1) California
2) Northeast
3) Dallas area
4) Chicago area

Look where the academy soccer tournaments have been played:
1) California
2) Illinois
3) Texas

This shows you where the best soccer in the country is. Unfortunately SC in not in the list. You are not able to compete with the larger states. If you take Illinois, the metropolitan area of Chicago is greater than 5 million, larger than the entire population of SC. How can you compete with the talent that comes out of these large areas? you most likely can't. You can have great coaches and training, but if you use a population model, you have to have more population to produce the better soccer players. If you only have population of 3 million, and you use the numbers that there are only 5 excellent players per million per age group, you will only get 15 players of that calibur. If you have a state with a population of 15 million, you will end up with 45 players that are of that calibur. And you may have an elite group within that state because they end up having two to three teams that play each other at that high level.

I see this with referees. You get referees sent to ODP camp, or regionals, and you can tell who came from the bigger states, and who came from the smaller states. When you have a regional team that destroys a Kansas, South Dakota, North Dakota, etc, it is because of population density. They may be the best of that state, but they couldn't play with second tier teams of the larger states. The referees can show that too. They may be able to handle the best that the smaller states can give, but get in over their heads at the better more challenging games of, lets say, an Illinois-Ohio match.

As you have found out, SC is not up to par yet with the largere states, and may never be able to compete with the larger states. Every state thinks that they are the best, but look at the states that consistently send the best/most teams to nationals. They are typically the largest states with the largest population bases. SC better start reporducing to increase their population density!

How in the world did Brett Favre ever get out of Mississippi?

How did Kevin Garnett get out of South Carolina?

How did Trajan Langdon and Carlos Boozer go from Alaska to Duke?

I don't buy the small state theory.

CESA, CUFC and Bridge FA are all very good clubs with very good trainers and coaches. I'm not asking for national team players, I'm not even asking for first team Region players. I'm just looking to see a few of our girls make the Regional III pool as holdovers from camp.

If there are girls from Louisianna, Alabama and Tennessee that are making the cut, I want to know "how"? Why them and why not our best girls?