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I saw that DSC won the u-18 Boys Championship. What were their two games like for them this weekend. I have watched them play the last two state cups but i was unable to make it to this years. What kind of games did they have in the semis and finals.

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Didn’t take long before we would see spinners on the message board. Point values for placement – are you serious? The worst is that now some folks are claiming that winning state cups was not or is not a goal or mission of the club. That is a nice attempt at a soft landing. You won’t here any excuses or spinning from CESA when they don’t win.

Up until this weekend, the sky was falling on CESA, as some were claiming that the “gap” was closing. You can try and qualify the results until you find a way to rationalize them or to make the difference seem closer, but at the end of the day, there is only one way to look at them. Sure, we can look at Premier League results, Regionals, and College Signings. I think you would find the same answer. But, let’s just look at state cup, which seems to be the best opportunity for head to head comparison:


Fall 2008
CESA – 5
CUFC – 1
Bridge – 1
DSC – 1

Spring 2008
CESA – 3
CUFC – 1

Fall 2007
CESA – 5
CUFC – 1
Bridge – 1
DSC – 1

Spring 2007
CESA – 2
Bridge – 2

Fall 2006
CESA – 4
CUFC – 1
Bridge – 1
DSC – 1
Lexington – 1

Spring 2006
CESA 4

Fall 2005
CESA – 5
Bridge – 2
NECSA – 1

Spring 2005
CESA – 6
CSC – 1
MPSC – 1

Fall 2004
CESA – 8


Fall 2004 – Fall 2008 Total (out of possible 60 state cup titles)
CESA – 42
Bridge – 7
CUFC – 4
DSC – 3
Lexington – 1
MPSC – 1
CSC – 1
NECSA – 1

How does law of averages fit in here?

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discoveries were very good in the last game. struggled to an overtime win in the semifinal against a game cesa challenge team.

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I am okay with the new BIG DOG as long as he throws in some pie charts and graphs every once in a while..

Loc Dog..CUFC had two teams in the 17 boys..One team in every other age group boys and girls except for 18 boys where they did not place a team..That's eight!!

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oh, you included saturday - ok.

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Loc Dog,

I think CHT is referring to the semi-finalist positions.

Last week the discussion in another thread was about how the "gap was closing". That was based on the number of respective teams in the final four.

This week, some have made comments relative to the results of the past weekend, particularly the number of championships. Some, one in particular, has called that childish among other things. Others, continue to point to the number of final four teams.

In the end, it's how you choose to measure success. If you measure as the number of final four teams, then yes, CUFC appears to have closed the gap a little. However, if you measure by the number of champions alone, the gap has not been closed at all.

The same data set can be used to support either position, and produce the continuing dialogue.

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I think most were realistic to what their chances were at state..I say most not all

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oh, you included saturday - ok.



I think he was referring to Final 4 spots. And, except for U18, all 4 play on Saturday and Sunday. And, I believe, the 3rd place games on Sunday were for a 3rd Premier League spot for 3 age groups: U15G, U16B, & U17B.

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Last year's results looks just like this years..The CFC girls made it to the final game but lost 1-0..Kudos to them for a good run..that's 17 girls..

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I have not really seen the CESA haters this year..Actually this site has really been quiet this season..I am sure high school ball will change that!!Maybe we are seeing a change in people's perception or attitude towards the most successful club in the state.Maybe more are seeing CESA as the measuring stick for their own clubs success..

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