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The following is from the 2008/2009 SC Youth Soccer Administrative Manual:
"If you are a SC Youth Soccer Publix Challenge Cup 1st or 2nd Place Winner, then you will be asked to play in the Region III Premier League. If 1st or 2nd place decline the opportunity, then the 3rd place team in the Publix Challenge Cup will be asked to play. If your team finished or is declared a 1st or 2nd place finish in the previous years Premier league then you will be asked to play in the Region III Premier League, if this opportunity arises, then 3rd place team in the Publix Challenge Cup will be asked to play."
Based on this, I believe the following teams will be asked to play in the R3PL in 2009 (2009-2010 age groups):
U16G: CESA 93 Premier, CUFC 93 Elite, Bridge FA 93 Gold
U17G: Bridge FA 92 Gold, CESA 92 Premier
U18G: CESA 91 Premier, Carolina FC 91
U16B: CESA 93 Premier, CUFC 93 Elite
U17B: U17B: CESA 92 Premier, Bridge FA 92 Gold, LCSC United 92 White
U18B: CUFC 91 Elite, CESA 91 Premier, DISA 91 Arsenal
just being curious.why would the u-16 girls age group get 3 sc teams into region play?
never mind.i see the other post
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..The U-15 Bridge93 team will be included since the CESA 93 P took 2nd in Premier. Don't know about any other age group
Yes, assuming you are speaking of girls, that was in my post above. The Bridge 93 girls should be asked to play in the U16 R3PL in 2009.
Also, LCSC 92 boys should be invited because CESA 92 Premier took 1st place in the boys 2008 U15 R3PL. And, since CUFC 91 finished 1st in the 2008 U17 R3PL, DISA 91 will be included.
is that a sure thing or is it up to the region staff to make the offer to play.
sometimes things are written but that is not how it ends up.
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I think it is pretty much automatic. The CUFC 93 girls played R3PL this season as a third team because CESA 93 Premier was second in the R3PL last year.
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from a competitive standpoint does it hurt or help sc to have that many teams in a certain age group? would sc be better if only the state champs got a region spot.then all the players that wanted to play at that level would go to one team.thought being all the better players would be on one team.then sc would compete better across the board in region play.i think you would see some clubs get better and some would get worse.
i would not want to see just one sc team for each age but it is just something to discuss or argue about.
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from a competitive standpoint does it hurt or help sc to have that many teams in a certain age group? would sc be better if only the state champs got a region spot.then all the players that wanted to play at that level would go to one team.thought being all the better players would be on one team.then sc would compete better across the board in region play.i think you would see some clubs get better and some would get worse.
i would not want to see just one sc team for each age but it is just something to discuss or argue about.
I understand your point, but if we are getting a 3rd spot because of taking 1st or 2nd place the previous year, at least one team must be competitive at that level. But to support your point, in the U15 girls division this season, CESA Premier finished 2nd while the other two SC teams finished 11th and 12th out of 12 teams.
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from the looks of state cup what other age groups is cufc developing local talent in.
cesa does have several out of towners that has helped some teams but if you look at their younger ages they are developing very well.
To what "younger ages" are you referring? "Several out of towners?" I think CESA has kids from all over the SE scattered over all U-15-U-18 teams. They had three kids on the U-15 Premier boys team who were added right before the roster deadline. Six kids on the U-17 Premier boys played for different clubs last year, etc. Nothing illegal or immoral there, but I do get tired of the canard that CESA's "system" is responsible for all of its success.
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actually when i said younger i meant the 13 and 14 ages.we will use those since other than the kids still in diapers you named them all.
im still trying to figure out what works best.letting players that want to come play for your club as cesa does,or trying to breed it at home that you say cufc is doing.who is getting the best results.honest question.what is working best.you sure do not like the way cesa is doing it but it seems to work as state cup shows year end and year out.
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I think that by having both your daughters in Gville you believe in the CESA way. Then again she did just win a state championship, so I can understand.
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I think that by having both your daughters in Gville you believe in the CESA way. Then again she did just win a state championship, so I can understand.
im still trying to figure out what is best.develope it young or build it and it will come.
seems the cesa way is working.
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im still trying to figure out what works best.letting players that want to come play for your club as cesa does,or trying to breed it at home that you say cufc is doing.who is getting the best results.honest question.what is working best.you sure do not like the way cesa is doing it but it seems to work as state cup shows year end and year out.
I really don't think there is a "right" or "wrong" model. CUFC focuses on taking the kids it has and developing their talent. CESA does the same, but quite clearly is happy to go find good players and bring them in (as well as cheerfully accept the ones who seek them out) as a supplement to its development of the local kids. In some ways, CESA's state cup success is self-perpetuating. They win cups, kids want to play for winners so they move to CESA, so CESA wins, and so on. That's fine. I have to say though that there is something distasteful to me about putting kids on your roster for state cup who haven't played for you all season. Some would call them "ringers." What happened to the three kids whose places they took (whether on the roster or just on the field)?
In any event, I like the way CUFC does things. I never have to question whether the motivation is developing the players or, rather, winning titles. I am in the fortunate position of being associated with a team that wins, so maybe its easier for me to say that.
(Again, for the record, I don't hate CESA. It is a great club and it remains the yardstick against which the rest of us are measured. There are only a couple of things about the club that bug me.)
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