Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 14 of 18 1 2 12 13 14 15 16 17 18
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1
R
bench
bench
R Offline
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 1
We have Harry come out and directly attack CUFC under the guise of being dis-appointed with CUFC. As a CESA person I also question his motive. I don't think it was dis-appointment versus fear that another club in the state has the fundamental structure to challenge CESA. A couple of years ago it might have made sense to drive to Greenville, but no more. All clubs have some good coaching and probably some great coaching. I have had 2 boys play for Rob Stickland and I think he is the best coach in the state, 2 Premier level titles and 2 state championships with teams that started as weak teams with losing records.

CUFC has made the right moves and has the critical mass to become one of the best if not the best in the state.

This is not a belittlement of any club - Ron Tryon , Phil Savitz and Trip Miller have done the things to point CUFC in the right direction.

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,147
H
brace
brace
H Offline
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,147
no one attacked cufc until happydaddy got fired up.

still makes sense for us to drive to cesa.the oldest just won her 2nd premier state championship out of 3 years at cesa to go on top of the 3 nc challenge state championships.the youngest and her team just won disney.

you say cufc has the structure to become one of the best or the best in the state.as big as they are they better be one of the best.if they are going to over take cesa as the best then when do they start? from state cup it doesnt look like armageddon as of yet.

Last edited by Hard Headed; 12/20/08 04:08 AM.
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 404
H
goal
goal
H Offline
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 404
Quote:

Maybe CUFC should offer to host an ODP event and show us how it's done right.




I don't think it's a good idea. If they were to do it, it shouldn't be in the middle of their tryouts, and it should be during the "seasonal year," making recruiting clearly illegal. The problem with this last proviso is that the ODP stuff is all going on between December and July - outside the seasonal year for all players not going to Regionals.

Quote:

no one attacked cufc until happydaddy got fired up




No- harry got this started with his concern trolling.

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,147
H
brace
brace
H Offline
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,147
No- you did with your typical cesa is not doing anything illegal but they cheat post.

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,256
Likes: 2
C
Coach
Coach
C Offline
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 2,256
Likes: 2
You guys don't know how happy you make me to be coaching a Classic team at one of the smaller clubs, where all I have to worry about is whether my players are developing both individually and as a team, and whether they're getting something positive out of the experience--not always about who is "best" and who wins the most championships, as if that were always truly a measure of how much players have progressed as a result of being a part of the club.

Yes, CESA has the advantage of being an established winner, and players who want to be recognized want to play for an established winner--which leads to a larger and more selective player pool, which helps to perpetuate the winning, which increases the reputation, et cetera, and so on, ad nauseum. It does leave the question of whether the winning is a result of the player pool, or whether the player pool is a result of the winning. Chicken or egg.

Could CESA win as many championships if good players from other areas didn't travel there based on reputation? Could CUFC win more championships if more of those players came there rather than CESA? Could a thousand monkeys with a thousand typewriters working for a thousand years eventually reproduce the combined works of Shakespeare?

A better question might be, is my child/young adult having a positive experience at his/her soccer club, and is he/she gaining the skills, confidence, and motivation to succeed at his/her goals?

If the answer is yes...it really doesn't matter what the "other" guy is doing.


I've got good news and bad news...
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,521
C
hat-trick
hat-trick
C Offline
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,521
Sorry Head..Harry did get the ball rollin..He was fishing in the wrong lake

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,521
C
hat-trick
hat-trick
C Offline
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,521
Coach..That's alot of typewriter ribbon

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,521
C
hat-trick
hat-trick
C Offline
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,521
There is one thing all the mergers and player movement has done over the last few years..It has made state cup predictable and unless your child is involved in cup play..kind of boring..Let's face it..CESA ,CUFC and BFA will hold most of the spots..There are not going to be to many cinderella teams winning state cup..Not that I pull for the under dog all the time but when the same teams end up in the same spots each year..It kind of loses it's luster

Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,147
H
brace
brace
H Offline
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 1,147
Quote:

Sorry Head..Harry did get the ball rollin..He was fishing in the wrong lake




i must of missed that post.i will have to go back and read.

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15
S
bench
bench
S Offline
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 15
Just goes to show, with all the recruiting going on in club soccer, it's much more difficult to win a HS State Championship. Wando girls 2 time defending State Champs, and favorites for a third. How awesome is that!!!!

Page 14 of 18 1 2 12 13 14 15 16 17 18

Link Copied to Clipboard
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 8.0.0