and parker/mak, IF you were referring to me when you said, "I was slammed for supporting CESA" i just want to reiterate that i am all for club cheerleading and showing off accomplishments, as long as you don't try to tear down everyone else in the process (same for loc dog).
if cesa is where they are, and you are proud of that and comfortable with everything they've done, you really shouldn't feel the need to lash out at other clubs. it's just not necessary. that's kinda what i've been trying to say for what feels like forever.