What I meant was at what point do we not call a ball 50/50? Because until under physical control, based on what we have seen posted so far, the ball is always 50/50. Not trying to be flipant just wondering if we have apoint where we would say a ball is not 50/50? As long as a player can get a foot to it before it is under control is it not then always 50/50? An equal chance of touching the ball will always exist until it is actually under the keepers control, wont it? If the ball is bouncing off the ground up into keepers hands but a fwd is able to hit it with a foot, knee or what ever (no hand ) before the keeper grabs it was it not a 50/50 ball?