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As a former coach on the wrong side of a score like that I felt it was a little disrespectful of the other coach to allow running up the score.You can still coach the other aspects of the game w/o leaving the opposition demoralized.Thats my opinion.Im more for the underdog,and not trying to make someone feel out of place.Its not fun watchin keep away,but for our team its better than the alternative.We respect our coach for that.There are to many schools throughout the state that cant" play up",so what do you do...I guess thats how they coach at IMG.To me thats not helping the other team get better mentally not just physically.Soccer should be fun for all,not just the winner of the match.

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I saw some team post a game score on here that was I think 10 to zero but they listed the scorers and it was 10 different people. That seems to be one scenario that doesn't make the high score seem too bad since the team was still working but I would guess they had players in different positions, bench sitters, and players that typically never score a goal an opportunity.

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You're right, scwame. Defenders playing up, attackers playing back, starters on the bench, focus on passing, stipulations such as must pass to all players on the field before a goal, count passes without the other team touching the ball, no girls score more than one. There are many things that can be done in such situations. Not that we really ever much of a chance, but we've made a decision to always cap it at 10 if there ever is a scenario. We're here to enjoy the game, get better at it, and for my team, to honor God in the way we play it, win or lose.

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It never feels good to get beat decisively. I remember scheduling Dutch Fork my first year (five years ago) and getting thrashed by Bo Sylvia 12 - 0. He did not start possession until 5 minutes to go in the game. I did not want Bo to take it easy on our program and the lesson was well-learned by the student. However, I am a passionate competitor and desired to compete at the top level. Sometimes you have to see where great programs are, what they did to get there in order for your girls to have an opportunity to compete at that level. Our HS soccer program is getting better every year because of the 13 years worth of work I and many others have put into this community. Are we there, who knows? I do know we are not getting beat 12-0 anymore (Thank goodness).

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A person from JI complaining?? Don't pull that crap when there are other schools and programs that get mercked like this on a regular basis. JI get better! Whats your excuse? Not enough resources? This is a joke! Lets face reality, there ain't much coaching or dedication to the Soccer Program at JI anymore. Don't complain that you got the #### beat outta you by the best girls team in the state.

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A person from JI complaining?? Don't pull that crap when there are other schools and programs that get mercked like this on a regular basis. JI get better! Whats your excuse? Not enough resources? This is a joke! Lets face reality, there ain't much coaching or dedication to the Soccer Program at JI anymore. Don't complain that you got the #### beat outta you by the best girls team in the state.



Hey listen... i just voiced an opinion about any team/sport running up a score. Don't bash JI . I choose to live on JI and my child goes to JICHS. HS soccer is just an adjustment after playing club soccer for so long.And by the way the JI Varsity Girls Coach is very dedicated and qualified for HS soccer. Relax .......it was just an opinion.

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Great comment Meredith. When Michael Young started with Hanna nine years ago, we didn't have much and Mauldin, Hillcrest, and Greenwood would just thump us. He didn't dare schedule big non-region opponents or it would have been more of the same. We worked every year to be better than the year before. He took them to camps, we got involved with the local club, and we kept over twenty middle schoolers a year on JV. In other words it was a yearlong commitment to improve. And you are right, if you put this much work in and create some excitement, pretty soon the really lopsided scores stop happening.

A good example this year is Laurens. They added a JV this year and already they look stronger. Are they ready to schedule Fort Mill? No, but baby steps make progress.

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It never feels good to get beat decisively. I remember scheduling Dutch Fork my first year (five years ago) and getting thrashed by Bo Sylvia 12 - 0. He did not start possession until 5 minutes to go in the game. I did not want Bo to take it easy on our program and the lesson was well-learned by the student. However, I am a passionate competitor and desired to compete at the top level. Sometimes you have to see where great programs are, what they did to get there in order for your girls to have an opportunity to compete at that level. Our HS soccer program is getting better every year because of the 13 years worth of work I and many others have put into this community. Are we there, who knows? I do know we are not getting beat 12-0 anymore (Thank goodness).



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And I didn't mean to start pages of debate or finger-pointing by responding to the opinion...just trying to lend a little perspective. Sometimes you have to be on both sides of the situation to understand the other perspective. Personally, I can't remember ever talking to another coach who said he/she enjoyed a double-digit match, regardless of being on the winning or losing side. I can also say fairly confidently that when we were on the losing side of lopsided scores, whether it was Wando, JI, or any of the other high-quality teams we've played, if the other coach had simply been intent on running up stats, it could have been much worse than it was.

The hard part about lopsided scores from the winning coach's perspective is maintaining competitiveness for the next match. I remember the last time I told one of my teams, "if we get to X goals, we're done scoring." What followed was some of the worst soccer I've ever seen.

Every game is a practice for the next ones, and it's the kind of practice you usually can't reproduce among themselves. So here's the conundrum--first, you need to make sure of the win. Any given team on any given night can jump up and surprise you, so it's wise to get a little cushion before taking risks. If your starters at that point aren't doing what they do best, then they're not keeping sharp for the next match. Then, if you have a second and third string who haven't gotten much (if any) time on the field, this may be their rare opportunity to get real-match experience...even though it's easy to say "put restrictions," building depth involves giving them a chance to play like they want to win. Passing around might develop some skills, but if they're not practicing finishing, they're not practicing winning. And if you pull them out the first time they get it right, they're not getting the repetition that makes it second nature.

Anyway, not trying to spread excuses or blame for any lopsided scores, just offering perspective from both sides...a coach sometimes has to try to walk a fine line between responsibility to develop and maintain his/her own team's skill set and a need to be respectful and sportsmanlike to the other team. Again, there is a big difference between rotating players around to give them opportunities to increase depth, and pounding another team with your "A" squad long after they've given up fighting back just to see how high you can run the score, and it's hard to just look at the final tally and tell the difference. If I was upset after losing 12-0 to Wando (and I was) it wasn't because the Wando girls had developed the skill and depth to keep scoring, it was because we hadn't stepped up to stop it from happening.

Could be I'm just rambling...but maybe we (myself included) could understand a lot more and live a little happier if we're not so quick to judge without knowing all sides.


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