Shibumi you give a fair analogy. When I began posting we were still on the fence about staying with CESA, so since I was only looking out for my child I was trying to stay under the radar, and ask some hard questions without being summoned to the Club office and getting my child thrown out of the club. When it comes to my family members I only care about them. We've had a parent in the past on our team and myself called to the office in the past about making detrimental comments to the club. After 5+ years or whenever CESA was formed we decided as a family to leave CESA, not because my daughter wanted to give up soccer, because the economic, time and travel burden got to be to much for our child and her parents. My daughter continues to play for another club, so all is good. I also have 2 usernames on this board, which so do most of my soccer friends on this board, some even have more than two. I just think if you have an issue with a club, speak out, because their not hearing it when you meet with them. I think they get a little paranoid at times when a group of people are complaining about them. If the complaints are valid I'll post and comment. Again, your correct I initially took the wrong approach. My other username is much more friendly.