Backscreen you hit the nail on the head. There are some really solid coached teams. But there are a few that just have practiced every cheap way of scoring in the book. I can tell you that we played a team from SCUMP today in the U10 division and a kid pulled off a step over move and he seemed to be pretty excited (maybe it was the first time he pulled it off in competition) but I heard the coach encourage it so not everyone is over coaching and killing creativity and although I don't know the coach I felt his kids played looser than anyone I saw in the tourney and I was pretty impressed with them. They just seemed to let the kids roll.