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Upside of limiting subs in the last 5 minutes would be it forces teams to play the game on the field down to the end; downside would be that if you have a couple of bench players you want to get in, often the last minutes are their only shot at playing time. I think a limit would be reasonable, though.
I'm definitely against overall limiting subs and no re-entry at the high school level. For most of us, high school ball is still developmental; I think players should be allowed PT whenever possible as the game dictates. Also, in the case of a lopsided game, would you really want a team to be forced to leave 8 of its 11 starters in for the entire game while others with dire need of playing experience sit and watch, or would it make more sense to be able to clear the bench and let as many as possible play?
If you are putting in players with only 5 minutes left and telling them that the only time they get, then they are not receiving valuable playing time. All players need valuable and critical playing time. It is a way to build confidence in them. When all you do is stick them in the last 5 minutes when you're up by 3 goals, that's not valuable or critical playing time.
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Agreed, but not so fast, friend...would never tell a player "that's all you're gonna get." In competitive soccer, playing time is earned--through practice, and through the minutes you do get on the field.
I would also never tell my team "everyone is going to get significant playing time in every game" regardless of disparity of skill level and whether we are in a one-sided matchup or dogfight for a win in a region match. Putting a player who is not quite ready for the level of competition at hand into a match at a crucial point--especially as a defender--is not always doing them a favor. However, getting them in for a few minutes against a quality side so that they can get a sense of the level of play and what they need to improve on to meet that need--that, too, can be developmental, without putting the team's efforts at risk.
Putting a player in for significant time only against weaker opponents gives them lots of field time, but not necessarily a sense of what it takes to develop into a starter; I've seen players get five minutes on the field under hard pressure, though, and come out to the next practice with a new resolve.
I've always felt that in practice, a coach's first duty is to develop players. In a game, the coach's first duty is to the success of the TEAM. That means making sure the personnel on the field are the ones best suited to the success of the team--but it also means taking whatever opportunities you can--WITHOUT harming the success of the team--to give developing players enough experience to see what it takes to BECOME one of those players best suited to the success of the team. Maybe that's playing the whole 80 against an opponent that challenges but doesn't overwhelm their particular skill level, and maybe it's five minutes against an opponent that runs circles around them so they get a sense of where they are...the circumstances have do dictate the balance between developing the individual player and developing the success of the entire team.
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Agreed, but not so fast, friend...would never tell a player "that's all you're gonna get." In competitive soccer, playing time is earned--through practice, and through the minutes you do get on the field.
I would also never tell my team "everyone is going to get significant playing time in every game" regardless of disparity of skill level and whether we are in a one-sided matchup or dogfight for a win in a region match. Putting a player who is not quite ready for the level of competition at hand into a match at a crucial point--especially as a defender--is not always doing them a favor. However, getting them in for a few minutes against a quality side so that they can get a sense of the level of play and what they need to improve on to meet that need--that, too, can be developmental, without putting the team's efforts at risk.
Putting a player in for significant time only against weaker opponents gives them lots of field time, but not necessarily a sense of what it takes to develop into a starter; I've seen players get five minutes on the field under hard pressure, though, and come out to the next practice with a new resolve.
I've always felt that in practice, a coach's first duty is to develop players. In a game, the coach's first duty is to the success of the TEAM. That means making sure the personnel on the field are the ones best suited to the success of the team--but it also means taking whatever opportunities you can--WITHOUT harming the success of the team--to give developing players enough experience to see what it takes to BECOME one of those players best suited to the success of the team. Maybe that's playing the whole 80 against an opponent that challenges but doesn't overwhelm their particular skill level, and maybe it's five minutes against an opponent that runs circles around them so they get a sense of where they are...the circumstances have do dictate the balance between developing the individual player and developing the success of the entire team.
I honestly don't believe you can separate the two. Practice is for development of the each player AND the team because if you fail to work on the technical and tactical aspects, the success of the team will not be, well, successful. You might win some games, but the players are not developing. I've seen coaches do a major disservice to the development of the player by coaching the team to send it long and run on to it because they are the fastest and most aggressive player on a team. What does that teach them to be successful at the next level? There is no build up, possession skills, etc. I'm sure you know what I am referring to.
As far as telling a player that those paltry 5 minutes is what they get, you don't have to...they know.
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Agree totally with your statements about development; there is a major difference between developing players and winning games. In the long run, it's better to lose a few games learning to do it "right" than just win the easy ones with pure speed and "boom ball." When you get to a team that has the athletic ability AND the tactical experience, it just doesn't work. The game should continue teaching the tactics and skills that are developed at practice...I hate seeing a team revert to "just kick it long" under pressure.
I think we may be looking at two different situations, though...in a lot of cases, I'm looking at players who are just learning the game of soccer, working on getting their fitness up to par, etc.; players who, against a team like Hilton Head, for example, would be quickly overwhelmed by the level of competition. They have a good sense of where they are in comparison, but getting that few minutes in can be a real focusing moment. When you have a player who only gets the few minutes in the first few games, comes out to practice and doubles her efforts, does a stand-up job in her next five-minute appearance, and ends up a week or so later spending 40 on the field in an intense, come-from-behind win...well, you don't have to tell the other players how she earned that playing time, either. They know.
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CC,
I agree with your post. There is so much of a gap in HS soccer competition. Too much at times. It's hard to get players to enjoy the game when one match you play...well...I won't name any schools but let's just say that the school you are competing against won't be tested for any performance enhancing drugs anytime soon, and then the next match you play someone that is way above you due to the fact that all their players play together year round and at a higher level than you.
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Well, that's part of the challenge of it all; you find ways to develop in both situations. In the one case, you get to experiment with some tactics (and sometimes players/positions) that might be much riskier in a close match; in the other, well, there's not much better way to measure progress than to go up against a really good team and see if you can recognize and correct the mistakes that they exposed in your game and play them a better match in the second meeting than you did in the first.
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I don't think you can find a league where that isn't the case. on all stages (and in all sports), there will be one-sided match ups at one point or another.
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My idea for a rule change, is perhaps a matter of a personal pet peeve! If your field is a dormant Bermuda grass field (still brown right now), use a color other than white to paint the lines! When the sun starts going down the players on the field cannot see a white line and neither can the official. Even when the lights come on the lines can still be difficult to see.
Case in point, the other night my team was awarded a direct kick outside of the 18. However, I felt it was a little too close for a direct kick so I walked down to the area and I could see it was clearly inside the 18. From where the official made the initial call he couldn't see the line. The official carefully examined the situation and then awarded a PK. Had I not advocated the situation we may have missed the opportunity for a goal due to white lines (and extremely faded at that) on a dormant Bermuda pitch.
If you choose to use white, make sure they are brightly painted. Don't paint them once every 2 weeks and hope that will suffice. You are doing your team as much an injustice by letting them play on that surface as you are the visiting team.
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Blue Ridge High School
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Speaking of rules, some info, please.
Is there an accumulation/suspension rule regarding yellow cards in SCHSL soccer? And, do cards received in non-SCHSL "friendlies" count toward the total?
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