lpaf, I see now why you post in the girls section. It is truly a mark of an extremely astute and worldly person, who can admit that he is not man enough to compete with the likes of Sexual, He Hate, Steak$11.95, the www. character and myself. Wishing you continued success with the most intense game on earth - Female Soccer! (By the way, Fred coulda kicked Gingers butt any day he wanted!)