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It is considered dangerous play because it may result in tripping or other kicking which may cause injury.
Dangerous Play – an action by a player that the referee considers dangerous to that player or others. Examples are high kicking, playing while lying on the ground, or playing the ball while it is in the possession of the goalkeeper.

It has to be in the judgment of the referee if danger is actually being caused to anyone.
Traditionally in High School refs have automatically called it if a player attempts to play the ball whilst on the ground. But if you read closely this is not mentioned specifically in that way. In the part of the book which deals with specific situations it states that the ref should decide if it constitutes a danger. If it does not then it should not be called.
In High School everyone shouts for it the minute it is done but it is not always a dangerous play.
Similarly with high kicks. It has to constitute danger to be called, but again everyone shouts for it all the time. If a player goes for a high kick with no-one around him then it should not be called.

Separate offense - serious foul play- with red card shown.
http://www.drblank.com/slaw12.htm

The link you provide is to FIFA laws not High School. However, the rule is still the same, a tackle from behind must "endanger an opponent" and that again is a judgment call by the referee.

I have another question.... If someone can help.

Attacking team corsses the ball into the box. Goalkeeper catches the ball above attackers head.

Golakeeper then motions for defending team to move out. He then bounces the ball into his hands as he moves forwrd to the edge of the area.
Attacker who was behind GK, times the bounce , steals the ball and scores.

FIFA Law 12 says:
An indirect free kick is awarded to the opposing team if a goalkeeper, inside his own penalty area, commits any of the following four offences:
takes more than six seconds while controlling the ball with his hands before releasing it from his possession

touches the ball again with his hands after it has been released from his possession and has not touched any other player

touches the ball with his hands after it has been deliberately kicked to him by a team-mate

touches the ball with his hands after he has received it directly from a throw-in taken by a team-mate.
An indirect free kick is also awarded to the opposing team if a player, in the opinion of the referee:

plays in a dangerous manner
impedes the progress of an opponent

it also includes:
Decision 2
The goalkeeper is considered to be in control of the ball by touching it with any part of his hand or arms. Possession of the ball includes the goalkeeper deliberately parrying the ball, but does not include the
circumstances where, in the opinion of the referee, the ball rebounds accidentally from the goalkeeper, for example after he has made a save.

I saw this in a game and the referee blew the whistle, overruled the goal and gave an indirect kick to the GK. The statement I heard was that he was in possession. Based on Fifa clearly he is not in possession and at most could have been called double possession.

What is the rule in HS and in SCYSA?

No Comments?

I know 2004 striker made one and somehow it was removed.... But I was really curious as to wht the call should be.

Sorry futbol. I deleted it in error trying to add to it. I believe it was correct call. He was in possession of ball, even while bouncing the ball.

We are now down to 2 or 3 other "what should the ref do", "what is the rule / law for...", but can we agree (Kyle?) that the ref probably made the correct call in the IFK.

And as to the answers for the other quueries, should the answer be for USSF or high school if there is a difference?

For the goalkeeper, the ref probably ruled on the side of caution. If the goalkeeper is in possession and not having seen the play, cannot state as to whether gk did or did not have possession, then ref's call should be correct.

The refs only goof, err and make mistakes when it is against your team.

futbol(soccer):
the incident you witnessed, was it like example one or example two? the critical question is how did the keeper lose control of the ball. bad bounce, slipped out of hands, kicked away while dropping, etc..

Never lost the ball just bouncing at the top of the box. In the old days I remember players heading the ball from the hands of keepers and scoring. I agree then that if it is in the hands it is control.... but bouncing.

I also remember that when the rule was first implemented there was the 6 seconds to get rid of the ball and bouncing was double possession. At least it was being called that way.