Soccer For Fun - just a thought here...you seem 2 b n2 the numbers pretty seriously. Maybe you could come up with some sort of program or formula using several different factors, including GAA, GSAOS, records of teams, records of opponents, etc. There is already alot of info regarding the ranking stuff....maybe you could incorporate that into your formulas. That way, your numbers would probably come a lot closer to the way things really are. Obviously, that is a lot of work - I'm sure Chico wouldn't mind me volunteering his services or past experience with this sort of thing. Heck, he might have already done the same thing at some point in time. Just a suggestion.