>>[ChuckNorris] dang it Chimpo, religion has nothing to do with the topic here, leave it out. Not everyone beleives what you beleive, so stick to what is actually pertinant.<<

Several questions: (1) Do you realize that you are making an assertion without any basis? In other words, your belief in something does not constitute a basis for your argument unless you buttress that assertion with some facts (or at least other opinions that serve as a foundation for your initial opinion.) (2) Do you understand the difference between religion and philosophy? "William Aiken" nor I have not asked you to believe in any religion, I've simply told you why Christ's teachings are revelant to the discussion -- which is what you asked "William Aiken" in the first place. If you don't want to know something, then don't ask about it.