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Nino,
There is no comparison between the Super Y ODP and ODP selection processes. Just examine for yourself the differences in the respective processes. As an example, Super Y has season scouts assigned for the entire season, whereas ODP bases a players' abilities on tryouts. It is just a more extensive process.
SCODP purports to have the best of the best, and that is simply not a valid statement. I can agree that there are some excellent players on SCODP, Cates, for example. Yet, why do you think that all of the best of the best players choose not to participate?

Ok I will slow it down for you!!!!

IF (I stress if) our state ODP is the BEST SC has to offer then what does it say that the man in charge of it(selection all the way to coaches) would rather take a shot on a 36 year old irshman rather than a kid from SC that played ODP and is just as good?

I don't have a son but I will say this.....there are a few College coahes sons in SC that are WAY WAY overrated....now little Lundy isn't one of them but there are a few!!

Taylor is the head of our state's ODP program. For him to "overlook" our kids when he gets to see them the most is a slap in the face to our kids...thats just how I see it!

And why don't you read my post again I NEVER mentioned politics..I mentioned coaching and money and that the best players are not on the teams....I had no reason just that they were not on the teams.

2004,
I hear what you are saying, but I have never ever ever seen a "scout" at a Y League game. THis is what I have seen at Y League games: Teams that are scrambling for players. Players that are not rostered playing under false ID's. 9 and 10 aside games.

This has been my experience. What is yours? I'm not asking what the goal of Y League is supposed to be but what the reality of it is.

Shearer,
Part of the reason that all of the best players don't go out for odp are because of people such as yourself who do nothing but blast the program and obviously know nothing about it. If you don't have a kid who has tried out and/or if you are not a coach/administrator in the program, then how do you know so much about it to be able to condemn it?

What other college coaches' sons are on odp teams?Which ones are overrated?

Why do you claim that Van Taylor has overlooked the SC kids? Have you spoken to him regarding recruiting? Have you been involved in that process with him? For you to say that any kid is as good as another kid is simply your opinion. If you are not "qualified" to assess players and their abilities, then your opinion is really irrelevant.

You obviously don't know that ncaa dvision 2 rules on player age limits do you? The days of these schools signing players over the age of 21 are pretty much over and have been since 2001-2002. I am pretty sure that since then, any player over the traditional college entrance age is limited in terms of his eligibility. If a 20 year old chooses to play for Lander, he would only have 1-2 years of eligibility. I could be wrong, but I am almost positive that this is the case. Therefore, it is much more difficult to sign older players now. Here lately, uscupstate, lander, etc. have signed numerous sc kids as well as kids of traditional age. I guess you would have no problem with coach taylor signing a 36 year old south carolinian?

2004,
Super Y league is becoming more like a Super YMCA league where anyone can play (see nino's post on scrambling for players) and everyone is made to feel good about themselves as players. No, everyone can not play on the odp team as there are "cuts" and roster limits. N, everyone will not make the region team, nor will they get selected to play in the pool games. You have to be a player. But, the players who are selected are trained properly, participate in organized events, and are evaluated by region coaches, who happen to be some of the best coaches around - alot of them are our top collegiate coaches. Who is evaluating the super y players - justin rhodes, bruce talbot, etc.? What is super y affiliated with? odp is the direct path to the national programs. that alone should shed light on its significance and differentiate it from the summer y league.

Nino,
I have not had those experiences with Diadora United. Rhodes is doing a great job with that club, even though the SC teams have stuggled to compete with NC/GA teams. It is just a different, open kind of environment with Super Y, than the more exclusive one of SCODP.

Ok pretty you win I am wrong my opinion is wrong. Have fun w/ ODP be sure to save me a score shrit w/ COACH in bid leeters across the front!! \

Hope your teams do well....

Super Y proved to be a disaster in Charleston and Greenville. What top boys from SC have played on the Diadora team? Who scouts for them? Has anyone ever seen a scout at a club game?

We are still stuggling, but the U16 boys has some excellent talent that is being nurtured by Rhodes.

oh, so now it is the gear that odp wears that kept your son from playing odp!! that is all you had to say. i guess the coaches sons embraced the gear and yours shunned it? how dare scysa outfit the teams in score!!