Apologies for discussing CESA and South Carolina in the same dialog and confusing everyone. My issue is with the level of South Carolina youth soccer not CESA. They are trying hard.

Chico, as far as competing, SC teams HAVE NOT even been consistently decent to be competitive until now with CESA, Bridge FA and others doing much better jobs in the last few years. Exactly the point.

Some better clubs, some better players and some way to organize to compete a little. Before, that's why it couldn't be done.

Let me simplify:
1) CESA is the best club in South Carolina
2) South Carolina is towards the bottom of Region III in terms of teams and individuals. Region III ODP selections and Region III Championship results show that. Those numbers are finite and objective.
3) I believe, to have consistent teams win in Region III competition, all the best players from the state need to be together. But, if responses from this topic on here indicate SC's view, there's not enough commitment.
4)South Carolina teams in semifinals and finals of Region III Championships is very low no matter what "logic" or "number" you want to use. Again, those numbers are finite and objective.

5)I'm sitting with 3 DOCs (from NC and GA) at the Score at the Shore female event in Greensboro as I write this. Off the top of their heads, they estimate over 75% of their top U15-U18 players travel at least an hour, one-way to training which is 3 times a week. It's not always distance but with traffic it's still very time consuming.

1.5 hours a short distance in traffic vs. 1.5 hours a longer distance in no traffic. Is there a difference?

6) I don't want super ODP teams. Just SC club teams with all the best players. Will it happen? No. Will South Carolina teams win with just talent from an hour or less? No. Is it really unreasonable to say the best need to be with the best because we don't have enough quality to be seperate?

I hope that was simple and logical this time.