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Ok, "suffer" maybe is too strong a word. But in the status quo of top level SC soccer there are usually 2 teams that are very good. Once in a blue moon 3 teams.
So there are 22-33 starters playing a ton of minutes on a team that will get them into a competitve R3PL, Disney, CASL Shootout type environment. They may not win....but they can get in and compete.
A super club/super team.....will cut that number of kids in half. The half that make it will go to Disney with the expectation of winning. The half that doesn't make it, won't go to Disney or WAGS anymore.
The half that doesn't make it will take a step backward from a competitve perspective. If "suffer" is too strong or emotional....so be it. But the reality of the situation is what it is for those kids. Denying it doesn't change it.
I'd still be in favor of it tho....the benefits to the top kids outweigh the disappointment to the next segment of kids.
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brokedaddy42, are you going to change your handle again?
how is the ankle coming? with hs over now......you know we're practicing tonight, right? your daughter is missed!!!
no handle change
anckle is good and i think she wants to watch her buddies at ft mill tonight.she is refing to make some money before the 2 a days get started with club.she will be back soon.
the gas i am going to use in the morning to get to those hills and do some trout fishing will cost me almost as much as the club fees.will be 3 bucks a gallon by next week.you have to figure it in when considering your fees along with hotels.maybe a lot of car pooling this year.
by the way...one good thing about your kid being on a bad school team.i get to sit ,watch and enjoy a game and never yell at a ref for calling a foul and then giving a clipping signal when he forgot it wasnt a football game.
maybe i will go yell at her while she refs the rec games.
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i may go yell at the PA announcer at the ft mill game tonight.
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...I'd still be in favor of it tho....the benefits to the top kids outweigh the disappointment to the next segment of kids.
The point that seems to be missed is that there are lots of kids who, given the opportunity to develop, would eventually be as good or better than those who are [now] on the "super-team." The notion that it is wise (or even possible) to identify the 16 kids in the state at a given age who are worthy of national or regional exposure, to the exclusion of all others, is bizarre.
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P&Y,
It would be nice to have state competition AND regional competition like NCYSA has. But we don't.....
Which is why I like the idea of the super team. We don't really have good competition at the highest level in this state to begin with.....why not consolidate it at say U15?
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I understand.....but we're talking about consolidating at U15 or so. If we were talking about U12 or 13 I'd agree with you. U15 is another matter.
And besides.....its a 1 year deal right? Kid doesn't make it at U15, bust your arse and come back at U16 to try again.
I don't think its bizarre at all. In fact, this is simply a microcosm of what ALREADY happens at CESA Premier and Bridge Gold and CUFC Elite today. There are kids currently on the top teams who used to be on the top team, got put on the "B" team, worked their way back to the "A" team.
I would hate it for my son or daughter if they wanted to play at the highest level and becasue of this....they couldn't. But I also kind of see it as being inevitable. Eventually it happens to every kid who loves the game and wants to keep climbing....but is told they aren't good enough. My son wants to play D1 soccer....and then professionally in Europe. You think thats going to happen? Who am I to say no? But realistically....he's going to hear no sooner or later. Whether its at 14 or 15 or 16...its still no.
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I'm not advocating that we dumb-down the process, or go backward. It's certainly a positive thing to have a super club in the state where the best can go and be recognized and challenged.
My point to p&y is that there are casualties (that's life).
When Mary Jones and Susie Smith leave the Low Country Soccer Club to go across the state and play for Mauldin United, they leave behind the third best player on the LCSC team, Debbie Johnson. While this is a great move for Mary and Susie, because they are now going to get to compete at the highest level, it's not a great thing for Debbie and the rest of her teammates. The team is now weaker. Debbie may not develop to her potential because her two best teammates are no longer there for her to practice and play with. Of course Debbie could have went to MU too, but for whatever reason she didn't (finances, time, loyalty...)
It's great that the option is there for kids who truely have the ability, the means and the desire to get better. I wouldn't recommend "banning super clubs".
Just don't tell me it is great for everyone and that there are no negative implications.
Kids play sports because they find it fun. Eliminate the fun and soon you eliminate the kid.
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HAH!!!! Like that hasn't been done before!!!! Gotta love the Lady Jackets!!
referring to brokedaddy42 yelling at the fort mill pa announcer tonight.
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I wanted to make clear that I wasn't suggesting that there be any limitations on the club for which any particular player can play. It ought to be up to the kids and their parents to determine which place is the best fit for them. Rather, I would like to prohibit solicitations from clubs to players beyond written notice of tryouts.
If a "super-club" develops (which it won't) well, so be it. What isn't ok in my book is the practice of affirmatively seeking out players from other clubs and enticing them to leave.
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