Getting 5 dropped on you IN A TOURNEY by a top five AAA when you want to be a top AAAA team may be good enough for your standards, but not mine. Losing 1-0 to the top AAA team (see Hanna) might be more convincing. The A teams don't help either. I think they're good, real good, but that one hurts as they have no ranked wins. Wren beat Hanna and Daniel (both currently ranked) and that's why i'd give them the nod.