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Coach P,
I think it's both. Now my son was fortunate enough to be trained by Coach Brisson and Coach Jamie P...while friends of ours had a good coach, but certainly less qualified than the two mentioned IMO. Now is that Coach Brisson's fault? Yes and no. Due to limited resources (man-power, time, money) He made the decision to place his next option/coach(s) with that other team. So, now that the coach has been placed, it's truly up to him or her to determine then if the player's experience is a positive or negative one. Obviously, the Brisson's, Hyslop's, Tormey's of the coaching world can't coach every team, but they rely on others to adhere to their standard and yes, Coach P, sometimes they fail. Resulting in a negative experience for the player and family. Then, the DOC has the option of retaining/firing this problem and gauging from your post(s) weren't you also (and currently) part of both these organizations? So are you partly to blame for the player's discontentment, too then based on your theory?

I really don't have a theory. I would just like to get a handle on what is the difference. Why is a coach in an organization allowed to produce "non-existent" training? It may be exactly what you are saying, ie that there was a one time failure by a coach that would have been subsequently corrected by the leadership.

I would like to state that I have no issue with the DOC of whom we are speaking. I coached in the Select program when he was DOC and he made considerable efforts to insure excellent training by his coaches: encouraged licensing classes, conveyed training guidelines in writing and verbally, held demonstrations on conducting training sessions, etc. I was just curious as to how this "non-existent" training could have happened in the Academy program that was also under his direction. It is puzzling to me kowing his emphasis of training quality for the Select teams.

I was not involved in the Academy program at CSC, so I really do not know what may have happened in this situation.

I really don't think CESA Columbia's woth has to come at the expense of CUFC or other clubs. They are vastly different organizations. The most obvious difference being that CUFC is the biggest club in the midlands and CESA-C is the smallest. There are good coaches and players at both clubs at CESA-C, as well as at CUFC. It comes down to personal preferences. Some people do very well in large organizations, others prefer the small venues. Each has advantages. In this sense, CESA-Columbia seems very different to me than CESA - Greenville. CUFC clearly has the edge in resources and number of players, and therefore in its ability to form elite teams as the kids get older. CESA Columbia kids, who are academy level players, may have to go somewhere else as they get older (Greenville, the Bridge, CUFC if they would be welcome (?)) On the other hand, you may have a better idea of what you're getting in terms of coaching and teams going into a CESA, CRSA, or LSC than you would in CUFC's larger Academy system. Both clubs play a role, and need not exist at each other's expense. This is not a zero sum game.

CUFC has the two great coaches in Tripp Miller and Greg Vallee. I think trip was an all american in high school dont know where he played at in college. I hear hes pretty good and Greg turned the CUFC academy around in one year.

Socdad...although most of the players in Spring Valley played for NECSA/CUFC not all did. some of them played elsewhere.

Is CESA-Columbia offering older age group teams? If so, when are there tryouts? Where?