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  • You really only have 2 coaches with the CESA-Columbia group; Eddie and Chris. All the others listed are just names to put on the site.
  • And finding fields and coaches in Columbia is always a problem, which will happen if CESA-Columbia grows to just 5-6 teams.
  • The greatest strength at CESA and St. Giles before that was that they could have 2 quality teams at any level and train them both as the Elite team.
  • CESA-Columbia is a fully independent club that has its own by-laws and board members or at least is suppose too.
  • CESA managers will have put a lot of time and money into CESA-Columbia by the time it finally gets past the one or two teams.
  • The entire club, all 16 teams could merge with CUFC and there is nothing CESA could do about it. This is a very big difference, especially if CESA seeded CESA-Columbia with a lot of money in order to grow the program, purchase fields and add lights. Then all that goes to CUFC during the merger.




Lets go through your list on my statements.
  • According the CESA-Columbia website: http://www.cesa-columbia.com/Who%20We%20Are%20-%20Coaches.html.
    They have 9 coaches listed on their official (not mine) website. Four of them are USC coaches and should as I suspect working on coaching their teams during the fall and not FULL time for clubs teams, and two of those are goal keeper coaches. Andrew and Pearse are in Greenville and I am sure provide great help in developing a training program for the club but can not be actively training full time a club team in Columbia. That leaves Jim, Chris and Eddie. I did not see Jim the first time so I did miss him and should have been 3 coaches. But they had one team last year. How many coaches did you expect to have for one team? I read they have 7 teams this year, then they should have 9 coaches on staff this year. This was not a bash at CESA-Columbia but pointing out a fact, only because everyone was trying to compare coaching a cesa-columbia to CUFC and I was just point out that it is apples and oranges. I did not see you comment to correct anyone for being bias on the statements about all the bad coaches at CUFC. They have 32 coaches, I am sure that they may have a few coaches that people don't like, but that just goes with the territory when you have that many coaches and your club is 1.5 years old.
  • This is just from personal experience of being on the board at Chapin Soccer, being involved with PGSA, CFC, and the board at CSC. At every club it was a fight to find lighted fields and filling all the coaching spots. Especially when I was as Chapin Soccer and had CSC 7 miles from us and using Crook Creek for our fields. This again was no bash of CESA-Columbia but just a fact of something that they will have to overcome from my personal experiences.
  • Again. I thought I was giving St. Giles and then CESA a compliment. I am sorry if you found treating all teams as equals to be insulting. I personally get upset when I watched the old CSC treat teams as an "A" and "B" and expect less from the "B" team and train them as such. I always thought CESA's training everyone on a equal level as being a positive. If that is insulting then I take it back and promise never to say it again.
  • CESA Managers was probably not very clear. I meant that Jim, Andrew, Pearse and Eddie as CESA managers would have a lot of time and work put into CESA-Columbia just to get all the logistics set in starting a new club. Again, I am a little confused in why this is an insult. I figured that putting in hard work to grow your club was a good thing. But again I with draw this statement if it insulting to Jim, Andrew, Pearse and Eddie that they might have some work to do.
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    CESA-Columbia is a fully independent club that has its own by-laws and board members or at least is suppose too. It is possible that the parents from CESA-Columbia could decide to disassociate themselves from CESA and merge with CUFC, Lexington, or CRSA and there is nothing CESA could do about it. I would be surprised if it ever did happen but it is important to understand the difference between the extension or training site and a fully independent club.

    So I do not believe, as I said in an early post, that CESA-Columbia would ever do anything but the CESA vision. I was only trying to create, what I thought, as a scenario in where CESA-Columbia might would turn against its roots and join a rival club.

Dictionary:

Scenario: A plausible description of how the future may develop, based on a coherent and internally consistent set of assumptions about key relationships and driving forces (eg, rate of technology changes, prices). Note that scenarios are neither predictions nor forecasts.

I made some very big assumptions. My intent was to provide a statement that might would be in the thinking on the board in the far future if it made such a bold moves. My intent was not meant for current thinking here or anywhere. I just trying to explain the difference between a club leaving a team or player leaving, nothing else.

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Any team from any club could decide to do the same. If all the parents/kids on any CUFC, Lexington, or CRSC team wanted to leave their current club and play at a different club they could and should do that. That's exactly what happened at CSC/CUFC and why Cesa-Columbia ever got started. If other teams/players are dissatisfied with the goings on at their present club they are capable of doing the same. Not many clubs will turn down a successful ready-made team with good players and excellent chemistry.



Next time I will wait longer and see if you don't provide a better explanation on facts so that I do not insult you or anyone else that might be reading the message board. As I reread the statement I can see how you might confused it as as assertion and not as a future possible thought pattern of a board member. I feel that my experiences being on several boards allows me the ability to have some understanding into the dynamics and thought patterns that MIGHT occur on any soccer board. I stress the word MIGHT because I am not as nearly as smart as you and as such wrong at times.


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John: Respectfully, you are an official with the SCYSA. CESA-Columbia is a member in good standing with the SCYSA. Don't you need to at least try to appear to be unbiased?



I think you may want to get to know me personally before you question my ethics on the site. I do not believe I have questioned your ethics. But I do find it interesting that when I was trying to praise Andrew's leadership but people took it wrong they made the following quote:

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Chapindad�I find the implications about Andrew H (and the running of CESA) to be irresponsible and misleading�I have the highest regard for him as a person and a coach�My child respects and loves him for what he has contributed to her life�I have felt completely free to express myself to him and he has always responded fairly and professionally when I have�even when we have disagreed�

I know this is a discussion board of opinions, but we should monitor ourselves on some issues related to specific people�If you meant nothing negative�accept my apologies for misunderstanding�




But when you question my ethics, then it is okay and not irresponsible and misleading. Seems to me there is a double standard.

Here I go again!