futbol - above comes from the ussda presentation pdf. You seem stuck on the notion that at 17 it's too late. Well sure if they are the bottom of the barrel (no offense to anyone). If you have the talent and desire to learn you can still succeed at 17 and fix things.

Look at the NFL. They take raw athletes all the time from college programs and make them into elite professional athletes. It is possible to learn at 17. I don't think we're talking about the so so player here. What we're talking about is the underachieving comfy group that has been on the top team since U14.

Those kids and coaches need some motivation don't you think?