woah17, i didnt say anything about them being down 4-1. i def said '4-1 counterattack.' but i digress. as for everyone else, i also agree about paradise. i didnt mean to compare those players' abilities. god no. i was just trying to make a point that stats arent everything.

and yea dutch fork has lost that bad before. and if things dont improve from what ive heard, im seeing bad things for them when they play irmo. forget that its a usually close contested rivalry game