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Are you sure that this is not a typo? Ronnie Murray Hero?
Hmmmmmmm......this must be a typo, but what could the poster have meant to type?
It must be a word spelled similarly to hero....thinking.....thinking....Oh yea, I got. You are right, I agree.
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HAHA...Ronnie Murry a hero......now thats funny!!
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I have nothing to gain by the SSC contract and therefore, nothing to gain in a debate about it. I believe strongly that CESA is about building community and player and with that I will bow out of this thread.
Yes CESA does a good job, but I feel it is contrary that they are "about building community." Bringing kids from other communities, 50 - 100 miles away, into their community builds no community but the CESA community. To me, community speaks about those you go to school with, those you worship, those you see in the grocery store, those you see in your community. My opinion is they want to build the best teams and bring thousands in to their program so their founders can increase their own wealth. The American way, you know.
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"THE AMERICAN WAY"
what is wrong with that?
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Soccer22, Bear, others...
I have nothing to gain by the SSC contract and therefore, nothing to gain in a debate about it. I believe strongly that CESA is about building community and player and with that I will bow out of this thread.
Yes CESA does a good job, but I feel it is contrary that they are "about building community." Bringing kids from other communities, 50 - 100 miles away, into their community builds no community but the CESA community. To me, community speaks about those you go to school with, those you worship, those you see in the grocery store, those you see in your community. My opinion is they want to build the best teams and bring thousands in to their program so their founders can increase their own wealth. The American way, you know.
I'm sure that a lot of players have a lot of reasons that they commute to CESA from outside the GSA metropolitan area. I can tell you the breaking point with my kid -- it was at age 13 (when a pre-CESA team crushed her team that had won the challenge cup state championship the year before (she had played on two completely different teams in the same club that won two challenge cup state championships in the midlands by that time) by basically just showing much better soccer fundamentals. Her teammates walked off the field laughing while she was crying. She had also been reading about Lindsey Beam and wanted to practice with her. She asked us if we'd take her up there. Her team's coach, Shaun Jacques, at her request and on her behalf contacted Andrew Hyslop, asked if she could go up there to train, and she began training with the 17 and 18 teams -- didn't join the club, the club just allowed her to train up there all she wanted with whoever she wanted. The training was vastly superior and she decided to switch clubs (the first and only time she's switched clubs.) I kind of doubt that they saw a mighty physical specimen in her -- at the time she was 4'10" and 90 pounds -- smallest player on any team she played on by far.
I have no doubt that some kids might go there only to play in RIIIPL-East and/or win a state championship -- but I've spoken to a lot of parents who sacrificed for their kids because the kid just wanted to be a better player and the parent made the decision to help the kid.
My kid will be going to college next year and thus I don't have a personal stake in what CESA does or doesn't do. I am biased because I appreciate what they'd done for my kid. But I'd like to make the "CESA system" available to everyone so that parents who can't take their kids 100+ miles to practice can still help their kids achieve their dreams.
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Great comment...My daughter went to the combine back in January and played soccer for four hours with high school kids from as far as Alabama..Got to talk with college coaches and fed the girl too..When we left they gave her a jersey that was well worth forty dollars..and all this for twenty five dollars..We felt like we stole something from them..They offer a program for high school kids that don't make their team...What other club does these things?
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"THE AMERICAN WAY"
what is wrong with that?
It's still legal as far as I know.
Last edited by dhunter; 05/08/08 02:50 PM.
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"THE AMERICAN WAY"
what is wrong with that?
It's still legal as far as I know.
what is illegal about the american way is that free enterprise monopoly that the oil gods have on us. i bet the gas price will be more of a factor on where kids play rather than the name of the club.
i watch a group of so called experts on tv last and they said nothing has changed as far as the demand for oil since last year.they all said a barrel of oil should be 80 to 90 dollars a barrel.they all agreed there is no reason for the high price.BUSH!!!!
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here is something that i just rememberd. i only know a handful of people at coulumbia united.i do not know any coaches or anyone else in charge.we live 1 hr from columbia.2 days ago my rising u-13 got a nice card with her name on it advertising cufc tryouts and telling a little about the club.im sure they get names from cufc tournys or other rosters and i am sure alot of other kids get them also.our season is over and i am not saying something is wrong in what they did.actually i see nothing at all wrong with it and i think it is smart.my question is what is the difference between what cufc is doing and all the things people complain about cesa for doing? maybe it has just been cesa bashing week.
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The clubs get a listing of players' home addresses from SCYSA. The clubs then send out the cards to the people in the list, this is normal process allowed by SCYSA. Other contact is prohibited if the state cup for that age group has not been played.
How do you get around it??? indirectly
Guest playing at tournaments, training with team from other club, ODP (yes ODP), parental contact and finally my favorite "I got your number from someone who said you were interested in learning more about our club" even though that never happened.
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